Ultimate Alien Or Generator Rex

[fia]

Generator Rex has more stuff that goes into the story that the view has more to go on. For instead, every episode of Generator Rex has had something to do with how Rex's life is going. If something happen in one episode you can tell he's doing something else in the next one.
Ultimate Alien just doesn't cut it! Yay, the last very episodes had A plot story but it is way too easy to predicted what will happen in the next ones. Ben and company will "save" another Alien that's not in his watch, only to have that Alien killed, captured and or destroy by the bad guy.
~Besides, it is SOO easly to tell that the bad guy just dumped the Aliens on earth so the Omnitrix would read they so he could later go in and take it!

I also think Man of Action created both so it's kindly fun that we are comparing his works!

 

[omgjelloz]

Generator rex

Personally, I feel that Generator Rex out runs Ultimate Alien by at least a mile. Ben 10 had its day, but it feels that all the ideas have been exhausted, and the show is only dragged on for the desperate hopes of money the franchise produces. The plots feel very generic (as do the characters and alien forms), and don't seem to flow very well together despite the overshadowing plot (whereas MOA does this almost perfectly with Generator Rex).

Generator Rex is different. Yes, there are a few cliche parts that MOA could have done without (for instance the monkey needs to go die in a hole), but compared to most of modern American animation, the show is simply stunning. The phycology of the characters allow the viewer to feel more simpathy for them. They each have their own personalities that are not black and white but grey, as well as character development (unlike Ben 10: UA). For example, Agent Six is not COMPLETELY (although very) stoic as he has seem to break this mold once or twice. The dramatic betrayals/ dark themes make older viewers want to watch the show as well. Darker themes (such as death) open up a whole new horizon of possiblities and motives for the show as well where as the "No dying" rule in Ben 10 prevents this.

So basically all that was just an over complicated way of saying: yeah, Generator Rex completely OWNS Ben 10: UA. ;P

 

[zoombie]

Generator Rex has a lot of the standard super hero comic book stuff, but one thing I have yet to see, is a fan kid. A kid that looks up to Rex. I thought in "The Archetict", the could have had one. If they decided to go with a mini arc of Rex on his own like they should have maybe he could meet a kid and became his hero.

Both shows lack cuteness in general. I know these shows are geared towards boys, but it is like they are afraid to give us any cute characters, and I don't mean fluffy teddy bears, or magical creatues, I am talking about humand kids. Preferably a girl, because in cuteness just like younger kids have a edge over older kids, girls have an edge over boys in that department. Oppose to their inport shows like Bakugan and Yu Gi Oh 5D, they are both actions shows geared towards boys but once in a while give us a cute little kid. What is wrong with taking a break from hard core fighting characters with some cute innocence.

 

[King_of_doom]

Generator Rex has a lot of the standard super hero comic book stuff, but one thing I have yet to see, is a fan kid. A kid that looks up to Rex. I thought in "The Archetict", the could have had one. If they decided to go with a mini arc of Rex on his own like they should have maybe he could meet a kid and became his hero.

Both shows lack cuteness in general. I know these shows are geared towards boys, but it is like they are afraid to give us any cute characters. Prefeably cute human kids or even more preferably cute little human girls. Oppose to their inport shows like Bakugan and Yu Gi Oh 5D, they are both actions shows geared towards boys but once in a while give us a cute little kid. What is wrong with taking a break from hard core fighting characters with some cute innocence.

Because we already experience that since the 80's, usually if a kid appears it will become an annoying brat even if it's not his intention yet with his actions are enough to make someone go nuts. I say this because i have seen this on TMNT and The Real Ghostbusters, just thinking about the junior Ghostbusters made me want to turn off the TV if they appear.

Just because Bakugan and Yu Gi Oh had it doesn't mean it goes to every show.

btw are you forgetting the kid from Ben 10 UA? The one that's a big fan of Ben, honestly when i see those type of characters i just walk away.

 

[zoombie]

Because we already experience that since the 80's, usually if a kid appears it will become an annoying brat even if it's not his intention yet with his actions are enough to make someone go nuts. I say this because i have seen this on TMNT and The Real Ghosbusters, just thinking about the junior Ghostbusters made me want to turn off the TV if they appear.

Just because Bakugan and Yu Gi Oh had it doesn't mean it goes to every show.

btw are you forgetting the kid from Ben 10 UA? The one that's a big fan of Ben, honestly when i see those type of characters i just walk away.

Point taking, but I think not all of them are Scrappy Doo reincarnated. Some of them actully add stuff to their series, but still knowing their place. For example I thought the three junior Titans from Teen Titans, I thought their episode was really nice, and gave us chance to see a different side of Raven.

I guess for every Nel who I think is awesome, there is a Chibiusa.

 

[Light Lucario]

Both shows lack cuteness in general. I know these shows are geared towards boys, but it is like they are afraid to give us any cute characters, and I don't mean fluffy teddy bears, or magical creatues, I am talking about humand kids. Preferably a girl, because in cuteness just like younger kids have a edge over older kids, girls have an edge over boys in that department. Oppose to their inport shows like Bakugan and Yu Gi Oh 5D, they are both actions shows geared towards boys but once in a while give us a cute little kid. What is wrong with taking a break from hard core fighting characters with some cute innocence.

I don't think that neither show needs cute characters as well. It doesn't feel really necessary for them to get a character just for the sake of having something cute on the cast. To me, a character's physical appearance doesn't really matter. I think that their personalities and role in the show should be more important than their physical appearance. If either Generator Rex or Ultimate Alien eventually gets an interesting character who just happens to fulfill that cute image, then that would be fine. If that never happens, which actually wouldn't surprise me, I would comfortable with that as well.

Besides, while Japanese shows don't have too much of a problem having some kind of cute character on their cast, I've noticed that a lot of American cartoons aimed at boys rarely have some cute character. It might have something to do with this odd idea that boys would automatically disregard anything cute as too girly. The people in charge of these series may also feel that cute would make boys think that it was too girly.

 

[zoombie]

I don't think that neither show needs cute characters as well. It doesn't feel really necessary for them to get a character just for the sake of having something cute on the cast. To me, a character's physical appearance doesn't really matter. I think that their personalities and role in the show should be more important than their physical appearance. If either Generator Rex or Ultimate Alien eventually gets an interesting character who just happens to fulfill that cute image, then that would be fine. If that never happens, which actually wouldn't surprise me, I would comfortable with that as well.

Besides, while Japanese shows don't have too much of a problem having some kind of cute character on their cast, I've noticed that a lot of American cartoons aimed at boys rarely have some cute character. It might have something to do with this odd idea that boys would automatically disregard anything cute as too girly. The people in charge of these series may also feel that cute would make boys think that it was too girly.

Of course have a purpose in the show, Nel has her purpose, Wendy from Fairy Tail has her purpose, even Elicia Hughes had her purpose mostly to provide background for her dad but still a purpose, all of them had a purpose on their series beyond providing the screen with adorable cuteness. Funny how all my examples are girls, what can I say and I know this can really be taking out of context but like I mention before as far as melting my heart with cuteness boys just don't do it for me.

I will say this, most american kid cartoon characters are brats like Penny from Adventures Time, the west just makes kids more braty, oppose to the Japanese that makes more likeable younger kids. I said a long time ago, how younger siblings in anime are much more respectable towards their older siblings they reguard them like they would a parent, while younger siblings in western cartoons are nothing but brats to their elder siblings. And that is how overal it is with the younger characters.

Oh well I guess ever show is different, but I thought when Rex rescued that Sarah that was kind of a nice moment. It melt my heart a bit.

 

[King_of_doom]

Of course have a purpose in the show, Nel has her purpose, Wendy from Fairy Tail has her purpose, even Elicia Hughes had her purpose mostly to provide background for her dad but still a purpose, all of them had a purpose on their series beyond providing the screen with adorable cuteness. Funny how all my examples are girls, what can I say and I know this can really be taking out of context but like I mention before as far as melting my heart with cuteness boys just don't do it for me.

You do realize those characters you mention have an important role in those shows, well Wendy from Fairy Tail. So what is it, that you want a kid to play a role in the show or to admire the hero and make a fan club? because what you're asking is for 2 things.

 

[firefoxprime]

Generator Rex has a lot of the standard super hero comic book stuff, but one thing I have yet to see, is a fan kid. A kid that looks up to Rex. I thought in "The Archetict", the could have had one. If they decided to go with a mini arc of Rex on his own like they should have maybe he could meet a kid and became his hero.

Both shows lack cuteness in general. I know these shows are geared towards boys, but it is like they are afraid to give us any cute characters, and I don't mean fluffy teddy bears, or magical creatues, I am talking about humand kids. Preferably a girl, because in cuteness just like younger kids have a edge over older kids, girls have an edge over boys in that department. Oppose to their inport shows like Bakugan and Yu Gi Oh 5D, they are both actions shows geared towards boys but once in a while give us a cute little kid. What is wrong with taking a break from hard core fighting characters with some cute innocence.

we already have shows erhm excuse me....
"Channels" directed to the girl/female demographic. (Nick/Disney)
I want action packed, comedic, and character developing series.
and thats what I watch CN for.

If I wanted something cute, I'd watch the
previously said channels. Since NT, and XD still arent of the norm....(broadcast wise)
CN is all the boys have.

 

[R-Taco]

The biggest problem Rex has right now is unoriginality, so the last thing it needs is a token cute sidekick. A series shouldn't try to be like every other show.

 

[King_of_doom]

The biggest problem Rex has right now is unoriginality

What do you mean by Unoriginality? Be more specific.

 

[R-Taco]

What do you mean by Unoriginality? Be more specific.

The main character is your typical reckless, overconfident teenager who goes around fighting monsters. He ignores authority and does things his way while his boss wants to get him under control. Van Kleiss has unique powers, but his personality, appearance, and motives are your typical "I'm ruthless and I wanna take over the world" package. The Pack are standard evil henchmen with little characterization beyond "bad guys", and Doc Holiday isn't much more than the standard "caring female" character that every team ever has had.

There's a few neat ideas in there, but right now the show is mostly just a big ball of superhero cliches. It's why I hope the fan theory of Rex being nothing but a cluster of nanites turns out to be true.

 

[King_of_doom]

The main character is your typical reckless, overconfident teenager who goes around fighting monsters. He ignores authority and does things his way while his boss wants to get him under control. Van Kleiss has unique powers, but his personality, appearance, and motives are your typical "I'm ruthless and I wanna take over the world" package. The Pack are standard evil henchmen with little characterization beyond "bad guys", and Doc Holiday isn't much more than the standard "caring female" character that every team ever has had.

There's a few neat ideas in there, but right now the show is mostly just a big ball of superhero cliches. It's why I hope the fan theory of Rex being nothing but a cluster of nanites turns out to be true.

Sure its cliche to see that the main hero's reckless and all but the big difference is that he's character is developing like the recent episode where he uses his head to defeat Van Kleiss tho like someone comment before that he should come up with more creative stuff when he uses his nanites since we see that the ones he uses like the sword, canon, giant hands only hurt the villain or monster just a little.

Van Kleiss true goal hasn't been reveal yet so we can't say his your typical villain that wants to take over the world. At least the pack has some personality not like the ones from Ben 10 where we see Vilgax or Aggregor having robots to help them instead of characters that have powers to fight Ben and the others.

You gotta admit that they made a nice move on making White Knight has an antagonist that has a good cause by helping people on not getting infected yet wants to eradicate all those who are Evos if Rex wasn't around.

 

[Gold Starz]

The main character is your typical reckless, overconfident teenager who goes around fighting monsters. He ignores authority and does things his way while his boss wants to get him under control. Van Kleiss has unique powers, but his personality, appearance, and motives are your typical "I'm ruthless and I wanna take over the world" package. The Pack are standard evil henchmen with little characterization beyond "bad guys", and Doc Holiday isn't much more than the standard "caring female" character that every team ever has had.

There's a few neat ideas in there, but right now the show is mostly just a big ball of superhero cliches. It's why I hope the fan theory of Rex being nothing but a cluster of nanites turns out to be true.

For Rex, this the kind of ignorance I hate b ecause this is EXACTLY how we teenagers act, we ARE reckless, overconfident and for the most part ignore authority, so Rex is a REAL teenager, not some truth, justice, and idiocy like AF/UA Ben is.

Van Kleiss' motives aren't just "IMA GONNA TAKES OVAR DE WORLD!" like most idiotic villains either, what Van Kleiss wants is for EVOs to rule the world, while he is admittedly an EVO, he wants EVOs to be the dominant ones instead of humans. While this is only slight off of the beaten track, it makes enough difference.

And the Pack, well... I'm sure their stories are gonna be heard soon, I mean Breach is getting her episode soon.

Also, Doc Holiday is a badassed, super-smart, hot, caring woman who only does her job so her sister is killed. So yeah...

 

[Light Lucario]

we already have shows erhm excuse me....
"Channels" directed to the girl/female demographic. (Nick/Disney)
I want action packed, comedic, and character developing series.
and thats what I watch CN for.

If I wanted something cute, I'd watch the
previously said channels. Since NT, and XD still arent of the norm....(broadcast wise)
CN is all the boys have.

Nick doesn't seem to be aiming more at the female demographic. Except for a couple of their live action series, it feels like they have been focusing on both demographics in their programs, such as in Spongebob, Penguins of Madagascar and Fanboy and Chum Chum. Plus, based on the series that Nicktoons have picked up, such as Dragon Ball Z Kai, 2k3 TMNT series, a new TMNT series and the Power Rangers, they clearly are providing a lot of programs that are aimed at the male demographic. So, I don't really think that Cartoon Network is the only kids channel left in regular cable that appeals to boys.

The biggest problem Rex has right now is unoriginality, so the last thing it needs is a token cute sidekick. A series shouldn't try to be like every other show.

I agree that Generator Rex doesn't need a token cute character and that it shouldn't be imitating other shows. However, I'm not sure I would call it unoriginal. Sure, the idea of a teenager fighting monsters and is against authority is a pretty cliched setup for a story. Even so, I think that the personalities and origins for the characters, mainly Rex and Dr. Holiday, makes them more unique and interesting than other characters with similar roles in other shows. Rex having no clue about his past could provide a unique backstory for him and even though he doesn't always follow authority, I think the he does have a better/deeper sense of morality than a lot of other teenager heroes, such as Ben from the Ben 10 series. Dr. Holiday, while being the typical caring female, has a more personal reason for working in Providence, really smart and more useful/important to the plot than a lot of other female characters in series mainly aimed at boys.

 

[zoombie]

The Pack are standard evil henchmen with little characterization beyond "bad guys",

I agree with you as of now, hopefully that would change beginning with the next episode about Breach.

But since we just comparing to Ultimate Alien, the Pack at least have their own unique powers and abilities, not to mention their own look, all their own. Compared to Aggregor's henchmen (who only appeared in one episode so far in case you forgot) who are very bland. They all look the same, have the same ability, and hasn't even been proven useful to Aggregor.

 

[firefoxprime]

Nick doesn't seem to be aiming more at the female demographic. Except for a couple of their live action series, it feels like they have been focusing on both demographics in their programs, such as in Spongebob, Penguins of Madagascar and Fanboy and Chum Chum. Plus, based on the series that Nicktoons have picked up, such as Dragon Ball Z Kai, 2k3 TMNT series, a new TMNT series and the Power Rangers, they clearly are providing a lot of programs that are aimed at the male demographic. So, I don't really think that Cartoon Network is the only kids channel left in regular cable that appeals to boys.

I see where your coming from Lucario, but I dont see Spongebob and
Penguins of Madagascar being much male-oriented. Those series seem
pretty neutral in terms of pleasing both male/female demographics. I can
excuse Fanboy and Chum Chum, since its humor is a bit more focused on boy toilet humor.

I'm also aware of DXD and Nicktoons. But I'm focusing on the "Big Three".
CN, Nick, and Disney. Not their sister channels, (boomerang, NT, DXD).
Although NT is picking up those awesome series...I'm primarily focusing
on the "big three" since those channels are more of the norm in households in america.

 

[Fusion]

I feel it's a slighty unfair comparrison as Ben 10:Ultimate Alien is the 3rd incarnation of a long running show consisitening of the same characters - There is a history. Then there is a new show in Genrator Rex, where everything is unexpected and is currently forming it's own unique world. But if i ignore that and use Ben 10: UA as the starting point, i think Generator Rex is a better show.

 

[ToonFaithful]

Let me say this right now, I haven't watched Ben 10 Ultimate Alien since "Duped" and when they stop this Aggregor "Gotta catch 'em all!" stuff then I might watch the show again. So far the only show I'm watching on Friday nights is Generator Rex.

 

[King_of_doom]

I feel it's a slighty unfair comparrison as Ben 10:Ultimate Alien is the 3rd incarnation of a long running show consisitening of the same characters - There is a history. Then there is a new show in Genrator Rex, where everything is unexpected and is currently forming it's own unique world. But if i ignore that and use Ben 10: UA as the starting point, i think Generator Rex is a better show.

Just because a show has a long run doesn't mean its doing great, in my opinion it went down hill when Alien Force appeared and honestly it didn't impress at all and with Ultimate Alien its just the same old "Ben being a pompous jerk with the whole fame and showing the main villain just catching aliens without showing what he will do to them, not to mention that i don't see Aggregor as a menace to the main characters.

Unlike UA, Generator Rex it has the same feeling from the original Ben 10 when it comes to the art style and the action and also that it has a more interesting story than Ben 10 UA.