Toshiba drops HD DVD; Blu-ray wins

I really think it's a shame for the industry that HD-DVD didn't win, simply because of the name. HD-DVD easily connotes its a high-definition DVD, but you think Joe Consumer knows what a Blu-Ray disc is other than it costs double what the same movie does on DVD without any extra features? A format needs grandmas to buy it as well as techies in order for it to become mainstream, and I don't seem it happening with this one.
 
I really think it's a shame for the industry that HD-DVD didn't win, simply because of the name. HD-DVD easily connotes its a high-definition DVD, but you think Joe Consumer knows what a Blu-Ray disc is other than it costs double what the same movie does on DVD without any extra features? A format needs grandmas to buy it as well as techies in order for it to become mainstream, and I don't seem it happening with this one.

To be fair, my grandma is still stuck back in the VHS era and even that didn't occur until fairly recently. :p

However, I do agree with the people in this thread who think Blu-Ray will never completely replace regular DVD...
 
I hvae to disagree about the name HD-DVD. TOO many people think HD-DVD just means it is a higher quality disc that plays on any DVD. At least with Blu-Ray you know it is different.
 
I hvae to disagree about the name HD-DVD. TOO many people think HD-DVD just means it is a higher quality disc that plays on any DVD. At least with Blu-Ray you know it is different.

I've never met anybody who thought that about HD-DVDs; I have met people who didn't know what the hell a Blu-Ray was or thought they just worked in PS3s. Neither is good for Sony.
 
Hey, look at that, you abbreviated Microsoft as MS, then replaced the S with a dollar sign, most probably to make a point about your feelings toward Microsoft and how they may have occasionally strayed from the purer path in the pursuit of money, the thing that every business in existence ever is, by definition, pursuing. You're a clever one, you sly devil you.


I guess not even a Wii60 owner can poke fun of the event. If you go to GameTrailers the Sales guy for MS kept dogding the question. Yes, I own the 360 HD-DVD add on w/ 30 HD-DVD movies and have a few more HD-DVD movies on my list to get.
 
I've never met anybody who thought that about HD-DVDs; I have met people who didn't know what the hell a Blu-Ray was or thought they just worked in PS3s. Neither is good for Sony.

I've seen tons of people at stores returning HD-DVDs saying they did not know they needed a specific player to play it since it said DVD on it. Some of the guys at my local BB have it happen to them all the time. When they would talk about Blu-Ray, people would always ask why they needed to buy another player for BR, but not HD-DVD, not knowing it was NOT DVD.
 
I've seen tons of people at stores returning HD-DVDs saying they did not know they needed a specific player to play it since it said DVD on it. Some of the guys at my local BB have it happen to them all the time. When they would talk about Blu-Ray, people would always ask why they needed to buy another player for BR, but not HD-DVD, not knowing it was NOT DVD.

Weird.
 
I've seen tons of people at stores returning HD-DVDs saying they did not know they needed a specific player to play it since it said DVD on it. Some of the guys at my local BB have it happen to them all the time. When they would talk about Blu-Ray, people would always ask why they needed to buy another player for BR, but not HD-DVD, not knowing it was NOT DVD.
Not that it wasn't a problem for HD-DVD, but I would surmise that these are the same people who wanted to know why there were black bars on their screen and wanted to know what was wrong with the DVD or their player.
 
Hey, look at that, you abbreviated Microsoft as MS, then replaced the S with a dollar sign, most probably to make a point about your feelings toward Microsoft and how they may have occasionally strayed from the purer path in the pursuit of money, the thing that every business in existence ever is, by definition, pursuing. You're a clever one, you sly devil you.

...

*sigh*
Hey common, Im guilty of doing that as well from time to time. Others do it too. :sweat:


I don't understand why people are upset that HD-DVD lost. It was a smaller capacity format that was inferior to the competition. Not everything has to do with movies, data storage is a huge part of it as well. 50Gb is data on one disc vs 30Gb, no contest.
 
I don't understand why people are upset that HD-DVD lost. It was a smaller capacity format that was inferior to the competition. Not everything has to do with movies, data storage is a huge part of it as well. 50Gb is data on one disc vs 30Gb, no contest.

True enough, plus capacity aside, HD-DVD lagged way behind as far as hardware / software support on PCs. It would have hurt my soul if HD-DVD had won out in the home theatre / videophile market, only for Blu-Ray to win out in the PC enthusiast market. The world doesn't need that kind of incompatibility in standards between the living room and the office.

It is kind of too bad for me considering that I'm a 360 owner and would rather have picked up a relatively small/cheap add-on for that than either a PS3 or standalone player, but them's the breaks. At least I played the waiting game rather than jumping on the now-defunct 360 HD-DVD player early, I'd be pretty cheesed off if I'd committed to the format only to have it die on me.
 
I hvae to disagree about the name HD-DVD. TOO many people think HD-DVD just means it is a higher quality disc that plays on any DVD. At least with Blu-Ray you know it is different.

Not really, I've seen posts online from people who think you can play Blu-ray discs in a regular DVD player.

Not that it wasn't a problem for HD-DVD, but I would surmise that these are the same people who wanted to know why there were black bars on their screen and wanted to know what was wrong with the DVD or their player.

That's not really fair. I mean, the letters DVD are right in the name. Why would anyone think that a DVD wouldn't play on a DVD player? Remember SVHS? About ten years ago I one time ordered an SVHS thinking that you could play it on regular VHS players, after all it had the letters VHS right in the name. I then cancelled my order upon discovering that you couldn't.
 
That's not really fair. I mean, the letters DVD are right in the name. Why would anyone think that a DVD wouldn't play on a DVD player?
Because it's in a section labeled high definition right next Blu ray, the packaging is different and while I don't own any, there has got to be something on the back of the HD-DVD that says it's different. I have no sympathy for the uninformed consumer. If your VCR flashed 12:00, you have no business trying to buy DVDs without asking questions first.
 

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