"The Matrix Revolutions" Talkback (Spoilers)

[Charlie]

It was alright. Not as good as the first, better than the 2nd, it was pretty decent 4 out of 5. I would have given it that .5 higher, but for some reason, the theater I went to had some kids (who I had no idea how they got in there since they where like 10 years old) who started laughing really loud (if you havn't seen the movie, don't read this next part... seriously, despite it being cencored)

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when they showed what happened to Trinity when she and Neo crashed at the Machine City.

Other than that little gripe, it was good. And the fight for Zion part was awsome, I swear, I almost got a heart attack when (not sure if this is a spoiler, but what the hell)

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the Seekers where all swarming around.

I loved it, but it could have been better, such as the dialog...

[Edit Number 2] Just out of curiosity, but did anyone catch the Jesus/Bible refrence at the end?


[Edited to fix some grammer.]

 

[Sigma]

I enjoyed it. I thought it was better then Reloaded. Revolutions however wasn't as good as say, Kill Bill (one of my favorite movies released this year). Would I watch Revolutions again? Yes, Would I pay to see in theaters again? No. I will just wait for the DVD release before watching it again. I give it a 3.5 out of 5.

 

[Tracer]

I just came back from the movie and ...

I just came back from the movie and I still don't get it. I was really hoping for a better explaination of what happened at the end of reloaded and it never came, or rather it came in the form of "Neo is God, Smith enter our world, accept it and move on." then it got worse cause god can affect the machines of both worlds but can't figure out how to get out of a train station and can the the crap knocked out of him by someone with less than 10 mins of screen time.

I agree there were some incredible fight scenes but ALL of them lasted way too long, I felt bored when I should have been excited.

and did anyone feel drowned in symbolism and metaphors?

And last but certainly not least, what what with them carring off Neo like a fallen king. I did not get the impression that they were thankful or respected him. I got a deal is a deal and they backed off.

I really thought of the two epic movies (This and Star Wars) this would have the easier time wrapping up loose ends and ending the story cleanly, only cause we are one movie from where the SW legend began and we don't seem much closer to that point than we were at the end on Ep 1. Well this race may finish in a tie.

I gave it a reluctant 2 stars

 

[batman_batman]

I'm just going to pretend The Matrix was a great stand alone film with no sequels. And these last two movies with the Matrix moniker were entertaining but brainless action films.

yup, i agree with you.
they just threw the sequels together to make money. which is fine. reloaded was better. they just don't make em like they used to.

 

[Ben]

Hmmm...

People are saying this movie has stiff and corny dialogue, poor to mediocre acting, too much talking in the first half and not enough in the second half, predictable philosophical climax that took too few risks...

And all these things are true.

But the movie pulled me in. It made me forget that the good guys always win and bite my fingers wondering if Niobe and Morpheus would make it, or if Neo would beat Bain, or for that matter Smith in the matrix.

Oh, Smith. That fight was incredible.

And so much anime influence readily apparant in this one. The final fight was basically DBZ except good, and the destruction of the Smiths was like Evangelion except, again, good. Seamless integration of the cgi and live actors, and a live fight in mid-air. And the sheer number of good shots in the film had me in awe. I want a poster of every frame of that final fight. Neo and Smith fighting outside as we look over the heads of the Smiths lined up in the skyscraper, Smith with the lightening behind him, and the rain, oh the rain! So brilliantly used. And the Mexican standoff in the Merovingian club. Bam bam bam bam bam! Also glad we saw more of Seraph. Although I really, really missed Gloria Foster, who was by far the best actor in the franchise.

A beautiful, beautiful movie. For their next movie the Wachowskis need to find themselves a writer or two (I'm thinking Neal Stephenson), and then we will have perfection.

 

[Terminatah]

This was a beautiful movie, and I really liked it, but what the hell was that ending? I can accept what happened, but the closure is incomplete without the humans actually taking back the planet. This really was a revolution.

I should point out that the only way to see The Matrix Revolutions is immediately after having seen The Matrix Reloaded. They are basically one movie.

-Terminatah

 

[Dr Kain]

UM, they got peace, and they should be lucky at that. Hell, all the humans should be dead now. If I was the machine lord, I would've said screw you.

I love the architects line at the end when the Oracle asks if he will keep his word:

"Do you take me for a human?"

Ouch, that had to hurt, but is so true.

 

[GL2k2]

It was alright. Not as good as the first, better than the 2nd, it was pretty decent 4 out of 5. I would have given it that .5 higher, but for some reason, the theater I went to had some kids (who I had no idea how they got in there since they where like 10 years old) who started laughing really loud (if you havn't seen the movie, don't read this next part... seriously, despite it being cencored)

Spoiler

when they showed what happened to Trinity when she and Neo crashed at the Machine City.

Other than that little gripe, it was good. And the fight for Zion part was awsome, I swear, I almost got a heart attack when (not sure if this is a spoiler, but what the hell)

Spoiler

the Seekers where all swarming around.

I loved it, but it could have been better, such as the dialog...

[Edit Number 2] Just out of curiosity, but did anyone catch the Jesus/Bible refrence at the end?


[Edited to fix some grammer.]

No I didn't get the Jesus/Bible reference, what was it.

And does anyone know what the message was above the Oracle's door this time. I saw it twice and both times it was illegible because it's Latin again I thinks.

 

[creeper]

Okay...this being a trilogy and also the 3rd movie.....shouldn't there have been answers to all the questions? I mean this is the movie that is supposed to give closure. to me it seems like a waste of special effects to end like that....i think with a spectacular visual ending there should be an equally well written ending. What happen to the good ol' days when they actually had plots and endings, rather than the open ended stuff they obvious intend to exploit to make more money. for once i'm actually w/ czyznyck99

Special effects don't make a movie. Frankly i'm getting tired w/ all the movies w/ no plot and mucho special effects doing well. I mean i love them, but after while you want something w/ substance. If the stuff w/ substance does poorly we'll never see them again.

 

[sandwichman]

I liked, 5/5. And yes, I got the bible references at the end,

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Neo getting crucified, yes? And him walking on water to the Machine world guy, that someone from my school called "The Judge."

And the contrasts were nice. In the first movie, Zion was painfully boring and had enough useless philosophy for me to train into a sandwich-making team. But in this movie, Zion was cool, like this smily:

. And when they broke into the sky, it showed beauty, then it showed Trinity for a stark contrast.Below are my painfully boring observations on the movie, so you can just skip through the rest of this post.

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The Oracle's earrings are yin-yangs, symbolizing balance, but she is the unbalancer.

Seraph and Neo are both Kung-Fu cookie tasters.

The old Zion Genneral guy looked really wierd when he was yelling at the machines.

Neo said a potty-word.

The Trainman had bad teeth.

The only man to get to 01 was blind. Depressing, eh?

Neo walked on "water" on the pipe, and got crucified, causing all those people who said that Neo=Jesus/God and Smith=Satan to pee their pants.

And as a really farfetched conclusion, Neo pumched Smith twice in the left side of the face, but not the right, to represent unbalance. And in some old superstitions, the left side of the body was the evil half.

 

[Charlie]

No I didn't get the Jesus/Bible reference, what was it.

I'm not so sure it was, but I think it might be.

At the end of the movie, after the fight with Neo and Smith,

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the macthine overlord says "It is done" (or something along those lines),

anywho, thats also what I think Jesus says when he is crusified on the cross. I'm not totaly sure though, but when I heard that, something just clicked in my head. Just thought it was worth a mention since I never really post much.


[Edited because I forgot to put in spoiler tags]

 

[The Guard]

I'm satisfied. The Matrix movies were modern mythology, with all the archetypes of classic myth and legend, and a ton of symbolism that can be interpreted many ways (Sometimes I think people make the mistake of thinking this has to be a Christ story, when many cultures and myths have similar ones) thrown in with a bunch of cool characters and awesome action. That's all I can ask for, so I got my seven bucks worth. Is it the best movie I've ever seen? No. But it was certainly lots of fun. There was enough character development, I think, considering some of those characters would have come across as fake with much more, and a of course there are a few things I could've done without. I would have liked to have seen more of Morpheus, and less or none of Bane (Still not sure why he had to be in this trilogy) This film had a sense of urgency, which was nice to see, and there was a lot of emotion at times, as the actors really gave it their all, I think. Keanu did a wonderful job emoting with no eyes to convey his grief at the end, a la James Marsden in X2. The special effects were incredible by pretty much any standards, and the battle scenes were exciting and beautiful to watch. Yeah, there were some cliches, but what movie doesn't have them? When all is said and done, I felt satisfied.

 

[Weatherman]

Personally, I was satisfied with the movie. I am more then willing to accept that they wern't going to answe all of the questions they posed and would rather have the audience come up with their own answers. Also, I think they did some things as they did, the ham fisted dialogue, the cornball moments, precisely because those moments were ham-fisted and cornball, sorta to say "HEY! It's a MOVIE! Not a slagging religion!"

I can accept this as being the end of this story. Given the rules they set up for themselves throughout the series, this is pretty much the only way it could have ended. They did drag out Trinity's death a little far, but as an anime junkie, I can see where they got the idea from and I can accpet it as is. If nothign else, they did the audience something to chew on by the end.

And, of course, the battle for Zion was a mecha enthusiasts wet dream. I am definately going to see thing in IMAX at least once just to see that whole sequence again the way it's truly ment to be see.

4 stars.

 

[GL2k2]

can someone explain to me why people are putting up Spoiler blocks when this is a talkback with the words "SPOILERS" in parantheses?

 

[The Clown Prince]

Well, Wednesday's numbers are out. And Matrix Revolutions made $24,311,365. Third biggest Wednesday opening. Wow! Phantom Menace leads Wedensday openings with $28,542,349 and LOTR : The Two Towers is second with $26,159,972.

The Clown Prince

 

[Dr Kain]

can someone explain to me why people are putting up Spoiler blocks when this is a talkback with the words "SPOILERS" in parantheses?

Because some people are stupid. I had a topic on another board about Big O's ending, and a guy replied complaining that I spoiled the ending for him.

And it didn't go through, but yes I did get the biblical reference, Neo died to save all the humans.

 

[Corrado]

"Well, Wednesday's numbers are out. And Matrix Revolutions made $24,311,365. Third biggest Wednesday opening. Wow! Phantom Menace leads Wedensday openings with $28,542,349 and LOTR : The Two Towers is second with $26,159,972."

That's good to hear.

Only time will tell if it does better than "Reloaded."

I'll have my mini-review tomorrow.

 

[Corrado]

For those of you wondering how "Revolutions" did compared to "Reloaded" its first day, "Revoultions" made $24.3 mil, compared to "Reloaded"'s $37.5 mil, its first day.

 

[randomguy]

Decent. Fairly satisfying and better than Reloaded, even though the dialogue was awful and the pacing was 20 different flavors of whack. That Zion battle would have been absolutely spectacular if it was half the length.

Which bring me to the Neo/Smith fight at the end, which was, yes, fantastic. There's really nothing left for the Superman movie to accomplish now. You could just see the dollars melt away onscreen.

Oh, and did anybody catch the hefty Animatrix reference with the Kid?

 

[Knight]

It was good I missed seeing Morpheus in action he didnt really do much or say anything as interesting as he did in the last one. Also there was a bunch of what I think was unexplained stuff. For example how did Smith suddenly get to Neo level power? At first he could just copy himself now all of a sudden he's flying and if all Neo was going to do was let Smith absorb him so the Machines could do there thing and delete Smith why even fight (well other than we would have missed out on a great fight). Anyway nice conclusion but I liked Reloaded and the original better.