I still don't understand your obsession with Misty or her fanbase. You keep bringing this up in nearly every one of your Pokemon posts and it's beyond old. It's oddly enough been old for at least a decade, so complaining or laughing about fans spending years of their lives focused on these characters definitely feels like a case of the pot calling the kettle black. You really don't have room to talk.
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I think people just felt it was long overdue by then. Like even if BW didn't go with the fresh-start approach, I still think it was time for him to go. DP did give him some decent roles to finish his development with, so I'm glad he got that.
I'm positive that you're still posting there, but that's beside the point. I'm taking some time off for personal reasons. I don't know why this person would be coping my posts on May since I don't recall ever being anti-May on Bulbagarden. I wasn't into Dawn for the longest time in part because I liked May, which feels kind of weird since Dawn has much better writing, but I don't think that changed for me until either late into DP or even after the series finished.I mean it's still going on today. I can't post on bulbagarden anymore as you know but I still read threads, and there's a Misty fan there right now hating on May in one of the anime threads here:
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Ash never watched all of May's contests, though? Some of her contests had him training outside of the contest hall or has him doing other things.
Are you still a mod on bulbagarden or did you retire? This person Blessed has been copy/pasting their anti-May posts since the year 2020 (yes over 5 years if you look through their post history), claiming May had no character development, that she did nothing for her first 50 episodes (which we know is a blatant lie), or claiming her Pokemon didn't do anything. I'd report the posts for spamming and talking over people if I could. She's even copy/pasting your old posts about May from 3-4+ years ago and pretending and passing them off on her own, and a lot of other users there are noticing she's doing it to their old posts. I'm pretty sure copying other peoples posts and pretending they're their own is agaisnt the rules. This person just constantly derails threads about May while promoting Misty, and nobody does anything about it. If not, you should respond to them. I'm really surprised the mods over there are not doing anything about this, but it's proof what I'm talking about still happens.
That was the case for some fans. I do remember some people feeling like the writers were having a harder time including Brock, more so in the DP movies than the series. Personally, I wouldn't have minded him sticking around for BW. Cilan was refreshing at first and he didn't blend into the background as often as Brock would, but in retrospect, he was a pretty poor secondary male lead. I hate Iris more and I think her writing was terrible, but I think that there is a decent argument that Cilan was written even worse with his goal eventually becoming a running gag and even his reason for leaving the cast being a fishing contest. I don't think that they would have kept Brock around anyway since BW was going for a fresh start approach and even only Pikachu and Meowth for older returning Pokemon at first, but I don't think that Cilan in the long run was a better character. The following series did a much better job with its secondary male characters though, so they at least improved from Cilan.
I meant she's literally copy/pasting other peoples old posts, some of which are yours (the one where you stated perhaps it would have been better for May to have one contest region long journey rather than split in two like for BF for pacing reasons), and splicing them together (taking some things you said, and another user there just noticed she copied her post about May's Squirtle and took it from an old post from 2022, etc). That person also admitted to never actually watching AG on other sites, so they're basically trolling.She even is double posting and using that entire thread for constant anti-May posts claiming May got no screentime or faded into the background for 50 episodes, which is wrong. That's why I asked if you were still a mod because if you look through her older posts it's all the same copy/paste posts about May almost over and over dating back to 2020. She should really be banned but it flies under the radar since bulbagarden has too slow activity nowadays, and the mods there probably just don't notice it. Also her saying May, "has no personality and is lifeless" is basically borderline character bashing, even if it can pass off as an opinion. Something needs to be done, that's why I brought it to your attention.
I found Cilan refreshing back then, he also tagged team with Ash in random episodes a lot more than Brock did, like battling the subway masters or those random tag battle eps they had in fillers. Yes he wasn't developed too much, but the writers always have issues giving the male companions development (even Clemont only fared slightly better, let alone Kiawe and Goh), so I'm willing to give it a pass. It's much harder to give a male companion development compared to Ash and the female lead.
Ah, I did say that May would have been better if AG had just one Contest journey instead of two. Not all of that was due to May's writing. The Battle Frontier arc in general felt way too rushed with cramming in a lot of major battles for both Ash and May within the span of a little over a year. Kind of weird to use that for anti-May comments when I wasn't being negative on May to begin with. I still say that you're missing my point entirely by focusing so much on what someone else is doing and not realizing that you're just as obsessed, if not more so, with repeating the same talking points on Misty and her fanbase.
Clian was refreshing at the start of BW, but I think he was starting to become less appealing even as the series progressed for me. Brock wasn't into traditional battles, so Cilan battling more often with Ash isn't a stretch with that in mind. While he's still likable, I'd probably put Cilan pretty low on my list of secondary male characters.
I would hope that there aren't that many people who still act as if it's 2005 and Misty just got replaced for a few reasons. You often bring up these exceptions as if they're the norm, or at least focusing on the exceptions to the point where it does feel like your own obsession.
If I didn't see these type of posts from time to time I wouldn't be talking about it though. And yes, a lot of them do still think we're in the year 2003 or so when Misty left and are still "raging" over her being replaced. I wouldn't have believe it either if I didn't see the posts with my own eyes, I also see it on reddit/twitter or other social media sites from time to time. Keep in mind most of these people are the original fans so they're around our age, between 35-40 years old. You'd think nearly 40 year old adults wouldn't be still going on about the same thing since they were teens in the early 2000's. I actually just turned 40 myself, so I'm probably one of the oldest of the original fandom, lol.
Serena's team was nice, but it's not like they really had that much characterisation. Her Sylveon just acts like any other Sylveon, Pancham was cool and Braixen was nice, but their personalities weren't really that memorable compared to some of the others. Not really saying all of May's pokemon had very distinct personalities either, but they were all serviceable and fine. And of course May's team was a huge step up from Misty's, where only Psyduck and maybe Poliwhirl had any characterisation.
I just find it weird that you've been going on about Misty and her obsessive fans for years yourself. I don't doubt that some people are still upset that she was replaced, even though that does sound kind of extreme for a few reasons. I just think that you've been focused way too much on them yourself when so many of your own Pokemon posts boil down to the same talking points about Misty. My point is that you don't really come off much better than these other people that you keep looking down on.
I'd give her Sylveon a bit of credit since it did stand out at least a bit as an extremely shy Eevee. Pokemon having less personality after they evolve isn't really exclusive to Sylveon. I'd also say that Pancham and Braixen had more personality than May's Beautifly or Blaziken. I don't think that Serena's team was the best, but I think you could say that having fewer Pokemon helped to make them stand out more than if she did have a full team. As for May's team, I liked it, but it definitely wasn't handled perfectly. I loved Bulbasaur's capture episode and it did get a good amount of screentime, but then it was left behind in the Battle Frontier arc only to get a random cameo as a Venusaur in DP. They really should have kept both Bulbasaur and Squirtle since she would have had room for both. I never cared much for Munclax and her Eevee didn't stand out much until it became a Glaceon.
The users' avatar was more familiar than I initially thought it was so I probably have seen their posts before. It still feels weird to randomly bring up Bulbagarden posts and issues here, especially when it looks like they did get plenty of reports from that recent conversation about May in that thread.
Yeah, it's the same user with the misty/dawn fanart avatar. They actually made a sockpuppet account and then the mods merged it with her old account (Blessed or Blessing, or something like that). That's what I mean, if you look through their post history, 90% of their posts are the same copy/paste posts about May over and over, mostly the same anti-May posts. I didn't know that was allowed on forums, it's just that the mods there aren't active anymore and it probably flies under the radar. She really should be banned since she's not there to have an actual conversation with anyone.
Ambipom's release was really bad. If they wanted to give Dawn another Pokemon, Ambipom was the only option that made sense, but it was still handled so poorly. Togekiss annoys me even more since she was given a strong Pokemon on a silver plate. I could understand wanting to give her a new Pokemon that Zoey wasn't familiar with so that both of them would have some advantage in their last battle, but it was still handled so poorly.
This is still such a pot meet kettle considering how much of your posts boil down to the same talking points over and over again.
Yeah, but it does far less. For example May's Bulbasaur is caught in 2004, and is still there for a year into the end of the Hoenn league. Gets two contests (first one it lost, then the one it beat Harley in his debut), then the Grand Festival. Squirtle actually gets used a ton, it wins her first and 5th ribbon, and it does appeals in 2 of the others (the ice beam/bubble combo), so it actually got a lot of usage surprisingly. Dawn's Cyndaquil doesn't really get that, just some brief training eps with Piplup, the Contest against Ursula, and even in the Grand Festival its only battle was 30 seconds long against Jessie. It was really handled badly in retrospect. It's weird because as I mentioned above, I never see anyone talk about it. Her Cyndaquil absolutely got less focus than May's starters. It even has the same issue of being a baby hatching from an egg in the Lyra eps and being a bit overpowered in the same fashion for being a newborn.
I think Togekiss could have worked if she caught it as a Togepi and raised it. We didn't really get to see a battle active Togepi much before and it would have been interesting. Maybe they didn't want to go that route since it would have required a friendship based evolution and that would have needed time to be done believably. If they wanted to give her a Togekiss, actually having Dawn bond with it instead of spending five seconds prior to the princess giving it to her would have been nice. Ambipom coming back for the Grand Festival certainly would have been nice. Given how rushed the Grand Festival was, I can see why that didn't happen, but Ambipom deserved to be in the Grand Festival and it would have been a nice way to include all of her Pokemon. It also would have made the trade between Ash and Dawn feel more meaningful instead of making it feel in retrospect that Buizel was the only one that benefited from it.
I wouldn't say it was handled badly. It still got a decent bit of focus and characterization. There have definitely been far worse late series captures throughout the various series. Bulbasaur was caught in the middle of the Hoenn portion of AG while Squirtle had the entire Battle Frontier arc. Of course they were going to have more screentime when they were caught earlier in May's journeys, especially when she had two Contest arcs. DP only had one Contest journey planned and Dawn was struggling to get her fifth ribbon by the time she got Cyndaquil. They could have given her Cyndaquil earlier to help with its screentime, but they would want to wait until HG/SS were out to tie it in with the new remakes.
It's not that I don't believe you that they've been doing this for years. I just find it strange, if not ironic, that you're complaining about someone repeating their same points over and over again. I don't think that this person represents a large portion of Misty fans in 2026.
True, but I just think that person shouldn't be allowed to get away with things other people got banned for. I'd try reporting the person myself but nothing gets done. The fact that they've been doing it for 5+ years now since 2020 is already absurd.
