"Loki" Season Two Talkback (Spoilers)

[Frontier]

So basically HWR was a heartbreaker that couldn't stand to have an equal partner in either his most loyal general Ravonna or his most loyal AI Miss Minutes...and ended up using both of them. Which was especially glaring in Ravonna's case because she helped him defeat the other Kang's. Dude just couldn't stand to work alongside someone for all time .

Although all this also could have been solved if Sylvie had just killed Ravonna in the first place .

Victor and OB bonding and trying to get each others' autographs was so precious. Who wouldn't love OB, really ?

Should we really be making deals with people who've committed multiversal genocide? Then again I guess that was TVA policy prior so the whole organization is guilty of that in one way or another. I didn't shed any tears for Dox and her men though nor their attempt to remain steadfast against Ravonna .

It's surreal how Sylvie walks in like she's part of the team and then has the gall to lecture/yell at Mobius when he's just trying to keep an optimistic look at things. She even seemed kind of proud of how she caused this trouble in the first place. Though I guess part of it is just her lashing out because she just doesn't know what to do with herself any more .

"We are Gods" - mic drop, courtesy of Loki .

"Someone even worse" - It's funny how they're always alluding to Kang but none of them even know what his name is or seen a fully-fledged Kang .

Count on the actor like Brad to be in it for himself and dial back his emotions as if on cue .

They killed off the one nice TVA guy! Worst part is Victor offered him his hot cocoa and never got to enjoy it himself .

Who knew this would be as easy as just resetting Miss Minutes (who turns out to have just been a normal digital clock) and giving the Loki's their magic back? Ravonna never had a chance. Pretty unceremonious end for her too, she didn't even get to fight back or do much in the end .

What was Miss Minutes trying to tell Timely? One last confession of love in the end? Something to do with HWR? "You'll never be him" felt like a glitch and not what she was intending to say, but also something Timely was probably happy to hear in the first place .

Speaking of unceremonious ends...poor Victor Timely. The one good Kang Variant killed so gruesomely and without warning, all because he wanted to play the hero and was inspired by Loki. And then they lose all hope as the temporal loom explodes and consumes them .

What's next for Loki and the TVA? Some kind of temporal reboot that revives people who got killed off? They somehow survived? Maybe tossed across time? Will this be the last we see of Jonathan Majors ?

 

[Yojimbo]

That was nuts. Lots of deaths and a few pruned/sent to the end of time and of course that cliffhanger! Well played doing a big fail with 2 episodes left.

Guess it had to be Loki Variant pruning himself.

This season continues to keep me engaged.

 

[Fone Bone]

Loki "Heart Of The TVA"

It was exciting and mindwarping and all but I'm still a little unhappy. Loki is TOO altruistic at this point. I don't mind him working with the good guys but his motives are currently too noble here. They are making the God of Mischief predictable. I'm not cool with that.

Miss Minutes continues to be sinister. Renslayer is outright evil.

I continue to love O.B..

Hot cocoa machines are definitely a selling point in the future.

Not a fan of the Sopranos blackout ending either.

It was cool enough, but I had misgivings. ***.

 

[Yojimbo]

Episode 5 "Science/Fiction" - November 2, 2023

Loki traverses dying timelines in an attempt to find his friends, but Reality is not what it seems.

 

[prpis]

I am not one to usually be a negative nancy on such things - i loved loki's first season. even bought the blu-ray. But loki's entire arc doesn't seem to be continuing here. I feel like our stay in the TVA has been overextended, and I do not understand why the TVA just sits around for things to be fixed while the place burns down in front of them. This sudden care for people in the timelines just doesn't weigh so heavy for me as it did last season. Now it feels like lip service to me as a means to just continue the plot. The show's focus now is to continue the plot of the entire franchise. It may have always been that sure, but it was also an excellent analysis on "what does it mean to be the bad guy?" "what is redemption?" "What is self forgiveness?". Not to mention the kiss Loki and Sylvie had was swept under the rug to not be brought up again. We can feel something is underneath this season but it was never as palpable as it was last season.

Even if Loki has now made a total 180, there isn't much beneath the surface here other than "ooo spooky what will happen next?", good cop bad cop with Mobius wasting time with sidejokes, and these rando ex-minutemen like Brad who imo i still have no idea who he is. Nothing is just sitting down to explain who is what and why they are important. Everything is a rush. I get it has to be because the situation is dire, but the situation was also dire last season, and yet I felt things were much more clearly explained and explored there thoroughly. This show is no longer a concept of an idea, it's not even much about Loki anymore. I got to the latest episode (ep 4 for me) and then the scene takes its time to hear Brad ranting again about who knows what and I just clocked out. It's unfortunate.

Maybe I am indeed suffering from the Disney over-inflation of franchises. I had no issue with the Spiderman movies but other than that, I think I am just tired.

 

[Frontier]

Ah yes, Time-Slipping. Loki's favorite pastime .

So this is meant to be everyone thrust into their Sacred Timeline identities but in a Branched timeline versions of them? So basically these are what they were as the originals ?

I didn't expect Casey to be a convict who broke out of Alcatraz. To think he seemed like the most normal guy of the group .

B-15 seems more natural as a doctor than as a TVA agent. Guess that makes sense .

We finally see Mobius on a jet ski...and he's just a salesman riding one for effect. But still, jet ski's are his passion! And he's a widower with two kids. Wow, he came from a lot. How is this going to effect Mobius when he gets back to the VA ?

Casey's was pretty bad but OB being a struggling sci-fi author who can't get anyone to read his books was kind of sad...but made him the perfect MVP to help out Loki in this episode because he's still super smart! Too bad it couldn't stop his wife from leaving him. Did that happen in the Sacred Timeline too ?

Every time Loki talks about the TVA being the only thing that can stop the Kang's, I'm like...are they though ?

Ah yes, the classic "trying to master your new power in a way that makes you look like an idiot" .

"I am selfish." At least Sylvie admits it! I've about had it with her constantly acting like she knows what's best for everyone and dismissing anything involving the TVA and all responsibility from doing anything but living her life separated from other peoples' problems. Maybe Loki really just wants the first group he could really call his friends back, but he still cares way more about stopping the Kangs than Sylvie does. And Sylvie finally sees the true fallout of her actions as the world unravels around her .

So who stole the temp pad? Mobius? Is that why he was immediately rushing to see his kids? Or was it because the timeline was unraveling? Luckily the power of friendship has helped Loki master his time-slipping and he can re-weave the timeline and everyone .

 

[Fone Bone]

Loki "Science/Fiction"

It was quite good. Equally mindbending and confusing in the right places.

They claimed this one was gonna be a filler but it didn't feel or play that way.

My favorite moment was Loki asking OB how he built the device so fast, and OB tells him it was 18 months, and his wife left him. Fiction, particularly television, often forgets it can do stuff like that, and make those kinds of shortcuts that actually are kind of epic when you think about them. In fairness to television, ideas like that are more common now than they even were ten years ago. But in an episode where OB is trying to teach Loki the precise differences between science and fiction, that specific idea occurs. It was the right idea for the right episode.

So yeah. I liked it. A lot. And if an episode is great, it's not actually filler. Period. ****1/2.

 

[Yojimbo]

Ah, nice touch. The thing they neutralized in the season opener is what becomes the solve for the finale. Hmm, so essentially, he just has to time slip to a point time before the radiation gets too dangerous but by the time Victor is there and use the Throughput Multiplier powered by Timely's prototype Multiversal Engine Core to expand the Loom. Hmm, but by then was the radiation already fatal. So he'd have to nab it from the Wisconsin lab then back to the TVA but then it would be just O.B. to figure out how to install it... oi. But basically, it took the collapse of all the branch timelines/multiverse and the near destruction of the TVA to get Sylvie to go backsies on her choice in the season 1 finale. Shrug.

That was a funny reveal that Casey's variant was based on Frank Morris. Or the O.B. variant was the writer of that Zartan Contingent book that appeared in the end credit sequence. That 'and my wife' bit also made me chuckle as did the girth of his Tempad and moving the time door around.

So there's the Loom problem to solve, the x factor of Brad, Miss Minutes coming back after the reboot is done (I think?), and I suppose a toss-up of Renslayer who is now at the end of time again (but if we're doing time slipping they might run into her while she still at the TVA).

Overall, I'm still satisfied with this season and it's one of the strongest D+ MCU shows so far and proof positive that making the head writer the show runner is the winning formula for these shows. But to consider the long term. This Loki variant is now a time traveler and go to the past, present, and future causing even more chaos if he wanted to. But more likely, he going to become the new He Who Remains and park himself at the end of time. Just like the choice he was leaning towards in the season 1 finale.

Every time Loki talks about the TVA being the only thing that can stop the Kang's, I'm like...are they though

?

Unfortunately, one would've had that bit ruined they read Marvel news online, lol. groan.

So who stole the temp pad? Mobius?

No one stole it. It vanished. Like Loki's bourbon before that scene and Sylvie's branch timeline.

 

[Yojimbo]

Episode 6 "Glorious Purpose" - November 9, 2023 (Season Finale)

Loki learns the true nature of 'glorious purpose' as he rectifies his past in this gripping finale.

 

[Frontier]

You know it's the finale because they call it "Glorious Purpose" .

Ah yes, a classic of any time travel episode...attempting to find the "perfect loop." Too bad that's always easier said then done .

The many, many, deaths of Victor Timely...even throw in a few extra deaths for He Who Remains, who makes a surprise return .

I actually wanted more of that one loop where Loki actually manages to talk Miss Minutes into helping them .

Of course a God would be able to spend centuries mastering engineering for the sake of saving the day. Now Loki is like the God of Engineers !

I'd been waiting for that Sylvie face of her realizing how badly she screwed everything up all season. Delicious .

He Who Remains was enjoying the couple fight wayyyy too much, but I guess he just rolls with everything, especially when he thinks he wins no matter what happens. It was pretty cool watching him and Loki contend with each other as respective time masters .

First we go back to the season 1 finale and then we go back to the beginning with episode 1, where Loki gets one last motivational pep talk with Mobius, finds out about his history with Ravonna, and realizes what he has to do. I kind of wonder, though, if future Mobius would've had a different answer ?

Loki had been chasing his "Glorious Purpose," his true role, all the while eschewing the throne he felt was no longer his life goal as it was when he began in the MCU...but then he realized what his Glorious Purpose truly was, sacrificing himself to bring the loom back together and become the God of Stories (or the Multiverse?) to keep the threads alive and all the different dimensions going, ensuring his friends' ability to be free even if he might never see them again. He even regains his godlike costume (and horns) once more as he enters into the breach and seals everything up. Loki truly was the God we needed but didn't deserve .

I love how even OB isn't 100% certain Miss Minutes isn't going to kill them again :innocent:.

I guess it's all's well that ends well. OG!Victor Timely is left alone and Ravonna is stuck at the end of time to face the fate she doomed so many too in her quest to control the TVA .

The TVA is monitoring the Kang situation (and comment on the Kang from Quantumania) but I really don't get the sense that they're qualified to be able to deal with him. And what are they going to be doing in general ?

I wonder what the significance of OB looking at the manuals at the end there is? Upgrading the TVA ?

I guess Sylvie got what she always wanted, true freedom and the ability to basically blow off everyone else's problems or any responsibility for anything despite it costing Loki everything just to give her that freedom. We'll probably never see her again if she can help it. But I guess that's what Loki wanted, his friends and loved ones to be free and to live as they see fit, such as Mobius looking into his original self and seeing how happy he was and could be .

So what's next for Loki? Will he be involved in Secret Wars? Will he help the heroes in Battleworld? Will he ever see his friends again? Will he and Thor ever reunite ?

 

[Yojimbo]

Great finale. One of the best seasons of a MCU D+ show made hands down. Hope they keep Eric Martin around on other projects.

The TVA is monitoring the Kang situation (and comment on the Kang from Quantumania) but I really don't get the sense that they're qualified to be able to deal with him. And what are they going to be doing in general ?

I suppose that's the reason they show up in Deadpool 3. Allegedly.

I wonder what the significance of OB looking at the manuals at the end there is? Upgrading the TVA ?

With the Loom destroyed, I guess it was updated to reflect what Loki's role is now.

I guess Sylvie got what she always wanted, true freedom and the ability to basically blow off everyone else's problems or any responsibility for anything despite it costing Loki everything just to give her that freedom. We'll probably never see her again if she can help it. But I guess that's what Loki wanted, his friends and loved ones to be free and to live as they see fit, such as Mobius looking into his original self and seeing how happy he was and could be .

So what's next for Loki? Will he be involved in Secret Wars? Will he help the heroes in Battleworld? Will he ever see his friends again? Will he and Thor ever reunite ?

That was a nice nod to the World Tree visually.

Unless someone gets past Alioth at the End of Time, no one's going to meet this Loki. He can't leave He Who Remains's throne.

 

[prpis]

11/9: The reviews are making want to give this a second shot

11/10: sorry for double posting. i binged the rest.

i will still say that scene i left the show on was so so weak. i still question a lot of the dialogue and character choices the writers made for this season, the needless side quests and questionable jokes made during serious scenes, and the amount of meandering we had to do this season is just unacceptable to me. but...yes (spoilers for finale) finally loki gets back in the spotlight and i will admit, him finding his final, relieving purpose to his soul, to save all the worlds and his friends, yes. yes finally. i loved him with his horns. this is what he was meant for. and its interesting it all goes down to loki, viking god of mischief to do this. him sitting on his throne of where he who remains sat, making it his own "big boy chair" and sitting there for the rest of eternity. yesssss.

and the last scenes with the tree...with the poster. achh. making and planting something new from the old and letting it blossom. i was reading a heavily involved book while watching and this with the book helped to relieve a headache. still stings though but not as much.

so yeah. beautiful ending. haaaate the rest for what it was.

 

[Fone Bone]

Loki "Glorious Purpose" (2)

Marvel Studios is in serious trouble. More than anyone ever could have predicted.

Honestly, I have taken all of the previous "The MCU is dead!" rants not the least bit seriously. And you know what? Until this, I still think the idea is a stretch. It is my perspective that franchises can be expected to go through various dry spells, rough patches, and eras of spotty quality. I think people raging against the recent MCU stuff never understood that goes for THEIR precious franchise too. Me? I saw the string of underwhelming / bad movies and TV shows as no big deal. If Marvel was ever inclined to, they could simply start making good movies and TV shows again.

This final installment of Loki is a turning point, and an utter disaster for that, because I believe they are now trapped in a bad canon / continuity snarl. A bad TV show is a bad TV show. But we have repeatedly been told that this finale will have huge repercussions for the MCU going forward. If that is so, they might as well just reboot everything NOW and not bother with The Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars. The choices this episode made makes me believe the upcoming Kang stuff is entirely unsalvageable.

Let me also clarify that I don't necessarily believe it was a bad piece of television. As a matter of fact, generally speaking, I enjoy watching weird things on TV that I don't understand, and that allow me to make up my own mind about what I just saw. People who have read my reviews know that about me, and might actually be a bit surprised this actually hit me so wrong.

This is too confusing. It's too inexplicable. It's too insular, and will confuse the average movie-goer if this is actually gonna tie in to future movies. Not only is nothing explained, nothing makes sense. I like smart movies as a rule. But I should be able to watch and enjoy an Avengers movies without having a degree in particle physics. It is clear Loki: Season 2's main inspiration was Everything Everywhere All At Once. But that movie being confusing and weird is okay because it's a one and done deal. Tying multiple movies together and having the entire franchise built upon something that makes no damn sense? Marvel Studios is crazy to do that. I often wish studios would trust the audience more. This episode of Loki is giving us FAR more trust than we either deserve or need. I am completely lost, and mad that this is the foundation of the rest of the Kang Dynasty.

I heard the rumor that because of Jonathon Majors' legal troubles Feige was considering replacing Kang with Doctor Doom as the Phase 6 Big Bad. I thought that idea was stupid. Here is where you CAN trust the audience: We can easily accept recasts. We are not dumb. You do not even have to come up with a Multiverse explanation as to why Kang looks different. As a viewer I understand this crap happens and I won't fault the studio or suggest they rejigger their entire film slate to protect the artistic integrity of the performance of a known wife-beater. Why Feige believes Majors deserves that deference is another idea I question.

But after seeing what a mess this was, maybe Feige is threatening to do that BECAUSE he sees what a disaster he's set up, and Doom would freaking simplify that to hell. What kills me is that ten years ago Feige would not have written himself into this specific horrible corner. This is not a corner ANY competent writer would ever plan to trap their franchise in. I was frankly shocked. It's not that I now think people whose hair was on fire about the MCU were right all along. It's that the franchise finally DID crash and burn, jump the shark, nuke the fridge, all those bad tropes, with this one single episode. The MCU being unsalvageable NOW doesn't mean its YouTube critics were right about it being so BEFORE now.

The episode title being the same as the Pilot's is supposed to hint at going back in time, and with Ouroboros in the mix, maybe hint at things going full circle. Instead the episode title feels lazy and unearned. The entire arc of He Who Remains feels that way at this point too.

MCU detractors, THAT is what an actual shark jump and disaster looks like. Don't confuse a string of crappy movies and shows for a shark jump. Marvel could have rebounded from all that. Now? They are stuck in this miserable, confusing canon that absolutely no-one will like. Idiotic. I hope they are happy.

This is bad. *.

 

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Okay so I watched "Heart Of The TVA", "Science/Fiction" and "Glorious Purpose" all at once since I guess I didn't feel like watching two week's ago and last week's episode when it debuted and I'm on vacation this week so I can take the time to stream some episodes in a row. And now that I have a full view of not only this season, but both seasons of Loki as a whole and this entire show I instead of wanting to do specific recaps on the three episodes instead will go over my thoughts as a whole.

- On a positive side unlike Secret Invasion that had a broken core and character in how it handled Nick Fury and didn't even seem to be sure of what it wanted to say about him, I actually feel what they were trying to do with Loki especially in this season. It was in his journey in the first season that this take on Loki actually fully learned the value of not only true companionship and understanding and not needing to take power for his own selfish ambitions, but of finding a place where he felt comfortable and that he could do good. Thus his desire to protect that at all costs from he what fears is the worst threat possible with the whole Kang army variant. That actually is a really good conversation he has with Sylvie in "The Heart of the TVA" about how wrong it is to just try and leave and not pick up the pieces of his own mistake (clearly showing he's grown up and she hasn't) and the value of how one would actually play god. I heard that "Science/Fiction" was kind of a fillery episode but that's important in getting Loki to realize those ideals are what he values with these people and allow to control the time slipping powers and ultimately get the better of He Who Remains. I really dig too that he actually used the time slipping not just throughout the last episode in fun ways (yeah it was played better in something like Edge of Tomorrow or even Happy Death Day but the "I have done this so many times constantly failing and getting back here" works and props on the joke of it taking him hundreds of years to understand all the science of the machine) but going back even to the first season. I will admit a couple of moments of Victor Timely chatting with OB were fine in Episode 4 but not a fan of the character but yeah this last ep remidned me why I like Jonathan Majors so much as he who remains (based on his performance I'll be sad if this is the last time he'll play Kang... if he really did what the ones suing him claims though it is not worth in any sense bringing him back at all) as I really loved him just freezing or getting rid of Sylvie. And I love the idea he was the one who gave Loki time slipping powers because he didn't just want to die. I think he either wanted to give someone a taste of all the possible what ifs and constant go backs he's had to endure or just wanted to see what happened because if you see infinite time lines you'd get bored about that. And I do like it hammering in how screwed Loki feels in that the only choice it seems is to kill Slyvie BEFORE she kills he Who Remains. And I like too that you think it's going to play as one of those tragic "has to do it for the sake of other tales" but Sylvie flips it on him not because of their love but rather not wanting Loki to give into fear. Because yeah that has been Loki's arc this season beyond just admitting his need of friends and connections; needing to let go of fear and reservation to embrace a potential where they may not know what happens next and have a chance to fight for it. And I really do like the idea of him becoming the one who guides all the time lines and creates the infinite universe the MCU is currently going through. Of course if this is going to be based off of Secret Wars especially 2015 Secret Wars then we are going to see Loki again cause wouldn't that mean the ultimate goal of Kang would be to take out this Loki and become a He Who remains but one who governs how every multiverse should go? Either way I do like this as the story of Loki's journey and where he ultimately ended up.

Here's a big problem though I realized with this story which yeah perhaps in a weird way even more then Secret Invasion shows how broken the Marvel TV structure is and how they really need to change it ASAP if they want to continue making shows; the fact that so much of this is a TVA show where not only does the TVA not really matter in the end (I mean now that Loki is guiding the multiverse what purpose do the TVA serve now that they realize there is no one central time line and they should let those in branching ones live their lives exactly? I think Deadpool 3 is implying they are preparing for war with Kangs but... even then is that really their goal now?) but a lot of the subplots with characters in the TVA don't really matter. Why was Brad given so much time especially if the point was supposed to be having lives on the timeline is important but he's also a jerk who betrayed and nearly helped get the multiverse destroyed and then just got... easily enhanced by Sylvie. I do like the joke in "Heart of the TVA" of the sensors being taken off for magic users to now use magic but like that felt wasteful. Though not as wasteful as Miss Minutes and Renslayer. Okay episode 4 reveals that Miss Minutes knows Renslayer was a partner of He Who Remains who he erased to be alone which... I guess maybe was supposed to parallel Loki and Sylvie but feels rather pointless considering after this the two only kill... very C list characters (granted in a very gruesome off screen death way but still) and then get easily taken out or corrupted back. Like Miss Minutes just gets taken over by OB rebooting the styem and honestly I had more issues rebooting my online network tonight then he did with her and Renslayher get pruned which sends her I guess to be eaten by that time mosnter still there and that's it. And we spent so much time with Renslayer and Minutes in epsiode 3 building them up that I kind of thought the point was they are the big villains of the show. But they aren't as this is a show more about ideas and journey and exploration which is fine but.... then you can't go so nowhere with pointless journeys like that. Because see in other shows or movies you use characters like this for the big elaborate fight scenes and to have your characters use their powers and abilities on in action scenes. But this show Season 2 especially didn't have really any action scene. Like outside of taking out some of the rogue TVA agents and trying to get Victor Timely and some of Sylvie and Loki's clashes there weren't really any sort of action scenes which if this was just supposed to be a character journey all about Loki and his development and connection with his friends he made here that'd be fine but then don't ahve all this other pointless other plots. Quite honestly this is a show that would be good as really solid 3 part super Mini series season. But by having this order for 6 epsiodes they needed to fill it with other fluff and yeah that is especially noticable if they aren't giving anything what people wanted to see. Horrible as the... *pauses to look it up* Clandestines were in Miss Marvel at least that detour had some action to it while episode 3 and especially 4 were so minimal really in the grand scheme of thing especially when you just needed to face scan He Who Remains. Again at least episode 5 had a point of showing all the others as important to Loki so he could learn to time skip... I do find it really lazy that all of these characters we focus on were from a 50 year period on just one planet even if it were in branches. Yeah they're all human but you know at this point you can believe there are other humans in the MCU on other planets so maybe explore that but no this show was being cheap in that regard but again at least it had more of a point to this whole thing. If the story is about Loki learning his glorious purpose... more of the series should have either been phrased around that or played to the amusing strengths. There were certainly some moments mostly with OB in these later episodes (he and Victor Timely signing one another books, his timeline selve being a sci fi author and yeah the music montage at the start of 6) but it is clear how much bloat this season has which hurts it a lot.

I don't think I disliked an episode as much as I did the third of the first season and again this is better then Secret Invasion as it has a better point but my god is this such a drag it really didn't need to be. It's weird watching this and the Marvels back to back cause movies like that feel like they trimmed too many scenes and had the potential to be better if they had a fuller cut. While stuff like this feels like they didn't trim enough and made too many epsiodes just for the sake of the most content. But I guess it is nice finally getting this and for now saying we're at the end of Loki's journey... still probably going to come into play in Secret Wars but unless you have Deadpool mocking the crap out of it I have had enough TVA stuff for awhile... and again what point does the TVA have now anyway?

 

[Yojimbo]

and again what point does the TVA have now anyway?

11/11: I thought the bullpen scene implied they are actively monitoring and preparing for Kang variants to start showing up in full. Well, He Who Remains. They don't even seem to have intel that his real name is Kang, yet. The war room meeting - they are planning. Assessing the Quantumania incident as solved. Maybe with those variants they would have pruned before they are imprisoning - and it's a question of when did they catch Deadpool - right after Deadpool 2 or after the events of this season. What exactly can they do to the Kangs besides prune them off to Alioth? Well, guess we'll see in Deadpool 3 or whatever they call it. Scott decided to not even tell the other Avengers about Kang, so nobody really knows unless Hope, Janet or Hank tipped someone off. The only frontline defense with any initiative right now is the TVA. But basically they're Phase Six's S.H.I.E.L.D. that's probably going to fall in Kang Dynasty.

11/13: Interview with Eric Martin. The original version of ep. 5 got scrapped by Marvel Studios because it was too high concept for them but everyone in the crew loved it and it was why Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead came to work on the show in the first place. Eric Martin wrote the new version in a weekend due to time constraints. Episode 3 was going to be 99% Renslayer and Miss Minutes with the others showing up near the end.

 

[Frontier]

11/13: Interview with Eric Martin. The original version of ep. 5 got scrapped by Marvel Studios because it was too high concept for them but everyone in the crew loved it and it was why Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead came to work on the show in the first place. Eric Martin wrote the new version in a weekend due to time constraints. Episode 3 was going to be 99% Renslayer and Miss Minutes with the others showing up near the end.

I wonder if they could've carried an episode...

 

[Yojimbo]

Wright debunks rumors another Kang was supposed to appear in the season finale.

 

[Frontier]

Wright debunks rumors another Kang was supposed to appear in the season finale.

Well, technically HWR counts even if we'd already seen him before .

 

[Yojimbo]

Well, technically HWR counts even if we'd already seen him before .

I forget but I think it was some rumor that some of the Council was going to attack the TVA in the season finale.

 

[Frontier]

I forget but I think it was some rumor that some of the Council was going to attack the TVA in the season finale.

Honestly I feel like we need a big show of force from the Kang(s) but that might not be until Kang Dynasty.