Cartoon Network International News Thread 27.0

[RegularMan]

We aren't in the 90s-2000s anymore. Also, CN isn't a documentary channel, like ID, Animal Planet, etc.

It’s literally just what Disney Channel does.

 

[[Tails swim]]

In arabic . Movies are still airing to this day
I remember CN arabia used to have a rights to air some Sony movies in 2010s era

 

[Markus]

I think the last movie was Polar Express? That was at the very end of August 2024

As a local feed. But movies aired even after the merger so it's not like you got rid of them. Although Polar Express type of movies won't be seen again.

 

[zakawer2]

It's not impossible but still a good enough situation that they at least got the times written. I can at least appreciate them that much that I no longer need to check the EPG. Things could be worse like they are in the UK.

Hopefully they will improve and say the times but it's one of those things I'm not concerned about. Numbers aren't as controversial as English text.

Zakawer, We don't need Finnish times written as the ratings aren't good enough compared to Discovery Channel and such. CN is not close to being a documentary channel.

If EET timeslots for Finland aren't that important (since the channel doesn't have any localization whatsoever for the Finnish market), then how come Finland doesn't just get a time-shifted EET version of Cartoon Network Western Europe?

The channel could have two timeshifts: a GMT timeshift for Portugal and an EET timeshift for Finland. Only one timeslot would be listed and displayed in promos (and would be spoken out loud on all audio tracks, including the English one that Finns who cannot speak Swedish must rely on). What would you think of that?

 

[RandomMe]

By August they were testing post-merger promos

 

[Francisque]

If EET timeslots for Finland aren't that important (since the channel doesn't have any localization whatsoever for the Finnish market), then how come Finland doesn't just get a time-shifted EET version of Cartoon Network Western Europe?

The channel could have two timeshifts: a GMT timeshift for Portugal and an EET timeshift for Finland. Only one timeslot would be listed and displayed in promos (and would be spoken out loud on all audio tracks, including the English one that Finns who cannot speak Swedish must rely on). What would you think of that?

Finnish speakers are indirect consumers of CN, the channel is not catered to them.

Russian-speakers outside of CET and so on have the announcers saying the "CET" mention, so it's a matter of calculation

Everything else is quickly sorted out by the time zone feeds, the reasons why they exist as well as coherence, is the possibility to show times on the channel without CET and EET.
Promos must be easy to decipher, and CET and EET and other stuff might not mean much to much of the core audience in main CEE and WE areas.

Yes, some will feel left out, but it's a minority, a minority which is used to do calculation themselves, and mostly "non-official" CN watchers

The only thing they could do improve is have the announcers saying the time on the English track, that's it

 

[Markus]

If EET timeslots for Finland aren't that important (since the channel doesn't have any localization whatsoever for the Finnish market), then how come Finland doesn't just get a time-shifted EET version of Cartoon Network Western Europe?

The channel could have two timeshifts: a GMT timeshift for Portugal and an EET timeshift for Finland. Only one timeslot would be listed and displayed in promos (and would be spoken out loud on all audio tracks, including the English one that Finns who cannot speak Swedish must rely on). What would you think of that?

They won't have a time-shifted version because it's not dubbed in Finnish. And I don't think ever will. Again, this does not affect you. It is what it is. Not every country can be dubbed as it would cost more money. These days if people want to watch dubbed shows, they'll just go to HBO Max. It's not like CN linear is hugely known over here.

Regardless whether people know Swedish or English, at least they understand one of those languages and both audio tracks are available.

 

[RandomMe]

Finnish speakers are indirect consumers of CN, the channel is not catered to them.

Russian-speakers outside of CET and so on have the announcers saying the "CET" mention, so it's a matter of calculation

Everything else is quickly sorted out by the time zone feeds, the reasons why they exist as well as coherence, is the possibility to show times on the channel without CET and EET.
Promos must be easy to decipher, and CET and EET and other stuff might not mean much to much of the core audience in main CEE and WE areas.

Yes, some will feel left out, but it's a minority, a minority which is used to do calculation themselves, and mostly "non-official" CN watchers

The only thing they could do improve is have the announcers saying the time on the English track, that's it

Portuguese and Spanish channels dodging the Azorean and Canary timezones in promos be like (radio time announcements don't count)

 

[Markus]

They have to dodge some markets as there are too many countries in the world. Not everything is fair for some countries just like viceversa when it comes to living conditions for example.

 

[Francisque]

At the end of the day, it's the same logic why many US channels , including the WBD kids ones, have only the time intended for the East feed and West feed (e.g. 6pm for both East coast and West Coast, and not 5pm central, 7pm mountain, 5pm in Alaska and so on) it would be a mess.

Granted, internally, in the US itself, people are more used to do calculation; but even people in Iceland, Finland and smaller countries in general, know they're getting the feed from not local sources, especially because of the language being used not being their own local one (English and not Icelandic, Finnish , Kazakh etc. ).

I think I'm very balanced and think certain things should be done for the respect of viewers, don't get me wrong (e.g. subtitles, audio description, small stuff like having the time even on the English track), but all in all, things must also be coherent and rather "easy".

Having multiple times, even the supposed use of English which is suggested here over time, are things that have been internally considered, but might result in messy confusing text or, as in the case of English text on children's channel, can be controversial.

So channels are more comfortable at the status quo, understandably.

@RandomMe these islands are no Central time zone for the US.

They're population-wise tiny, and almost all channels come from the mainland, so surely viewers are used to it.

 

[Zzman]

Mmmm I don't think so, about what zakawer mentioned

Plus, there are time shifted feeds now, which make CET-EET and so on mentions, already confusing for older people on "normal" channels, useless for the WBD kids channels.

I think it is better to stick with simplicity, regardless, and the use of English is more controversial on kids channels in Europe.
It is a case of it is what it is

Well, saying at least time on the English audio track is not far fetched, and not something impossible to do

Especially as it's a very small thing to change.

My comment referred more to adding CET/EET/whatever, which is, quite "heavy" and messy to do

actually yeah I guess that does make sense, if there are time shiftes no need to mention multiple times

however I would like to point out that feeds like CN Africa do have this problem where since they only mentioned CAT time this causes some confusion from people that live in East and especially West African countries because the show event or movie air earlier/later than what the promo say (since during times like the summer WAT is earlier than CAT by a few hours and EAT is later than CAT by 1 hour) and there are no time shifts or anything like that

for example when I was watching the CN classics block back in December the promo said it would air at 4:55 to my surprise it did air earlier than that in Nigeria it actually aired at about 4:00pm so i think logically in South Africa and other CAT countries it aired around 5:00pm (because in december CAT time is an 1 hour ahead of West African time and Nigeria is in West Africa)

(sorry for the long talk lol just wanted to say this because I don't think anyone mentioned this before)

 

[RandomMe]

CN Arabia uses KSA to be more manageable, it's the timezone most of the Arabian Peninsula uses. For viewers in Morocco, though, it's a question of calculating

 

[Markus]

Channels should respect viewers but people are not losing sleep over the fact that they don't have a local langauge and timeshifted version of CN. Dubbing shows streaming is what matters. Most animation fans are there. As long as the local general channels are there getting a million views every week some programs is what matters. CN never was that huge over here.

 

[Francisque]

actually yeah I guess that does make sense, if there are time shiftes no need to mention multiple times

however I would like to point out that feeds like CN Africa do have this problem where since they only mentioned CAT time this causes some confusion from people that live in East and especially West African countries because the show event or movie air earlier/later than what the promo say (since during times like the summer WAT is earlier than CAT by a few hours and EAT is later than CAT by 1 hour) and there are no time shifts or anything like that

for example when I was watching the CN classics block back in December the promo said it would air at 4:55 to my surprise it did earlier than that in Nigeria it actually aired at about 4:00pm so i think logically in South Africa and other CAT countries it aired around 5:00pm (because in december CAT time is an 1 hour ahead of West African time and Nigeria is in West Africa)

(sorry for the long talk lol just wanted to say this because I don't think anyone mentioned this before)

You make some points there, as CAT can indeed be confusing, especially in Summer.

I believe they should have some WAT or EAT feeds in some cases (or should be clearer at what CAT means, which is for them South African time, not "CAT"), when possible at least, and I feel like the rest of Africa outside of South Africa and maybe surrounding areas gets sadly missed out far too often.

It is a case of socioeconomics injustice too in general, not just related to TV channels and their huge South African bias.

 

[Walker]

Adventure Time: Side Quest (Turkish: Adventure Time: Yan Görevler) premieres on Cartoon Network and HBO Max on October 5, 2026. - Turkey

 

[RandomMe]

You make some points there, as CAT can indeed be confusing, especially in Summer.

I believe they should have some WAT or EAT feeds in some cases (or should be clearer at what CAT means, which is for them South African time, not "CAT"), when possible at least, and I feel like the rest of Africa outside of South Africa and maybe surrounding areas gets sadly missed out far too often.

It is a case of socioeconomics injustice too in general, not just related to TV channels and their huge South African bias.

Cartoon Network adjusted to Ghana/Nigeria, Kenya and South Africa.

 

[ROToon Alt]

Adventure Time: Side Quest (Turkish: Adventure Time: Yan Görevler) premieres on Cartoon Network and HBO Max on October 5, 2026. - Turkey

And the intro sounds so good in Romanian
Weird choice to use the first VA of Finn in the end tho...I don't wanna make hopes that she might or not return (many doubts)

 

[Zzman]

You make some points there, as CAT can indeed be confusing, especially in Summer.

I believe they should have some WAT or EAT feeds in some cases (or should be clearer at what CAT means, which is for them South African time, not "CAT"), when possible at least, and I feel like the rest of Africa outside of South Africa and maybe surrounding areas gets sadly missed out far too often.

It is a case of socioeconomics injustice too in general, not just related to TV channels and their huge South African bias.

this is actually not a bad idea and there will also be less confusion, also don't be confused by the dstv guides that have the schedules adjusted to the time for each African country (depending on what country gude you are viewing) the actual channel doesn't do that

 

[Walker]

Here in arabic . CN arabia just spammed kral sakir every late night while at CN MENA . they aired gumball in the late of the night

In Turkey, they constantly air Kral Şakir late at night, but this is due to a special situation caused by RTÜK (Radio and Television Supreme Council) in Turkey . I wish they would air programs from before 2010, or personally, I would prefer Gumball.

 

[Markus]

In Turkey, they constantly air Kral Şakir late at night, but this is due to a special situation caused by RTÜK (Radio and Television Supreme Council) in Turkey . I wish they would air programs from before 2010, or personally, I would prefer Gumball.

I can at least go through all night of Gumball than Kral. I have watched some Kral episodes and it's mid at best.