International Disney Networks Thread Part 16

[RegularCapital]

Australia is a smallish market, there's about 20+ million people, it's a wealthy one and speaks English, but in a lot of cases, Satellite is the main method to watch Pay-TV, adding to this the Satellite TV business in Australia was fragmented before Foxtel cornered the market, before then, there was Austar and Galaxy which didn't share all the channels. Cable provider Optus was practically a Foxtel reseller.

 

[RandomMe]

Australia is a smallish market, there's about 20+ million people, it's a wealthy one and speaks English, but in a lot of cases, Satellite is the main method to watch Pay-TV, adding to this the Satellite TV business in Australia was fragmented before Foxtel cornered the market, before then, there was Austar and Galaxy which didn't share all the channels. Cable provider Optus was practically a Foxtel reseller.

Even in those days, the penetration of all pay-TV services combined was percentually low even in state capitals. It was not like the other Anglophone markets, that's why most TV-related memories of the 2000s there are still from terrestrial TV. Only recently with the downfall of cable and the rise of streaming that they managed to increase penetration, even with fewer channels.

 

[themidnightlore]

Australia is another of those really stange TV channel macrocosm, like India and Canada, things run differently, I feel.
(They also still have Viceland. As Viceland. I wonder if being under SBS for that doesn't allow them to rename that into Vice TV)

 

[Aaron K]

While ideally it would've been much better, there are reasons why this didn't happen, which is the fact the channel was, unlike others, a "Foxtel channel" until the very end.

Sadly, it had never been given the chance to turn into Jetix before it shut down.

So Foxtel is the reason FK Australia never became Jetix?

 

[RandomMe]

So Foxtel is the reason FK Australia never became Jetix?

I think so.

They should have used its digital bandwidth to launch Toon Disney with Jetix shows. Otherwise, it was like Portugal, you watched the Jetix shows on Seven (Ten for acquisitions) at irregular times.

 

[Aaron K]

I think so.

They should have used its digital bandwidth to launch Toon Disney with Jetix shows. Otherwise, it was like Portugal, you watched the Jetix shows on Seven (Ten for acquisitions) at irregular times.

'Tis a shame TD got overshadowed by Jetix and XD. And like Francisque said, they probably thought it wasn't important (because there are absolutely no kids who don't like the live action kidcoms, am I right?).

 

[RandomMe]

'Tis a shame TD got overshadowed by Jetix and XD. And like Francisque said, they probably thought it wasn't important (because there are absolutely no kids who don't like the live action kidcoms, am I right?).

Even a lot of boys in many countries watched Hannah Montana, the same way The Suite Life had a female audience

 

[MagiaDiWinx]

Even a lot of boys in many countries watched Hannah Montana, the same way The Suite Life had a female audience

Boys and girls watch each other's shows (regardless of the sexuality they end up expressing in the future, too). Merchandise consumption is what is gendered. Kids are kids.

 

[RegularCapital]

So Foxtel is the reason FK Australia never became Jetix?

Yes, Fox Kids Australia's history is complex, because it was launched before the Fox Kids Worldwide partnership was founded, and Saban never owned part of it, it was treated separately through News Corp via Foxtel. There was licensing agreements with Saban, but when Fox Kids Worldwide was sold off to Disney, Fox Kids Australia was orphaned, had to find different programming quickly and didn't last long afterwards, and therefore never became Jetix.

https://regularcapital-audiovisual-research.fandom.com/wiki/The_History_Of_Fox_Kids_Australia

 

[Aaron K]

Even a lot of boys in many countries watched Hannah Montana, the same way The Suite Life had a female audience

...I was also referring to girls who might prefer P&F over HM.

 

[RandomMe]

...I was also referring to girls who might prefer P&F over HM.

Yeah, Phineas and Ferb was truly gender-neutral.

Yes, Fox Kids Australia's history is complex, because it was launched before the Fox Kids Worldwide partnership was founded, and Saban never owned part of it, it was treated separately through News Corp via Foxtel. There was licensing agreements with Saban, but when Fox Kids Worldwide was sold off to Disney, Fox Kids Australia was orphaned, had to find different programming quickly and didn't last long afterwards, and therefore never became Jetix.

https://regularcapital-audiovisual-research.fandom.com/wiki/The_History_Of_Fox_Kids_Australia

When I said Jetix should have launched in Australia, they should have learned from Japan and India. They had Toon Disney as well as a Jetix block for the newer stuff.

One thing that puzzles me is that Toon Disney India during Jetix managed to air two DW Transtel shows, Telematch and Didi Comedy Show (Nonstop Nonsens), both popular on Doordarshan in the 80s. Maybe DW Transtel was hoping to get the shows on Hungama but landed on TD/Jetix instead

In any case, they were newer reprints with all-new commentary.

 

[Markus]

It was not impossible though, it just didn't happen.

I mean, Toon Disney launched in areas with almost the same population or less as Australia, such as in the Nordics.
Since it's clear they could have not launched local versions everywhere, it would've been better to have pan-shared-feeds in some cases.

But I mean, at the end of the day, complaining about Toon Disney not existing was a bit rich and privileged, when many countries had no Disney Channel at all before 2006, such as Central-Eastern Europe.

@Markus I think no one is making that big deal out of it anyway

I didn't say it was not impossible but expecting it to launch everywhere globally is impossible. Plus people already got cartoons on "Cartoon" Network.

That's fine if people didn't make a big deal but it felt that way.

 

[Zzman]

im confused because nobody said for it to launch everywhere globally they were talking about how launching toon disney in australia would have benefited disney xd australia nothing about launching it globally

 

[Markus]

Just an example about the fact that not every country can get everything at the same time and Australia is relevant to the conversation. I always wanted Animax but life isn't fair

 

[Rrr]

(if that had been the case, I am sure that they would just originate it in Swedish and make Danish and Norwegian dubs)

How come such confidency?

 

[RandomMe]

In markets with no Toon Disney, it was impossible to watch the old shows Disney Channel put away.

And I'm talking about non-European markets so no Disney Cinemagic

 

[Markus]

It's not like the new content were bad. I never got the old good, new bad mindset.

 

[Aaron K]

In markets with no Toon Disney, it was impossible to watch the old shows Disney Channel put away.

And I'm talking about non-European markets so no Disney Cinemagic

Yeah even XD only opened the vault once in a blue moon. Rerun channels are really a market that deserve more love and effort put into them.

 

[Aaron K]

It's not like the new content were bad. I never got the old good, new bad mindset.

Of course you can like new shows, Phineas and Ferb is one of my favorite shows ever, it's just that most of the old stuff is just as good.

 

[RandomMe]

Yeah even XD only opened the vault once in a blue moon. Rerun channels are really a market that deserve more love and effort put into them.

Scandinavia-EMEA did that BTW because it replaced Toon Disney in both markets (although in Scandinavia it merged with Jetix)