Saban Talkback: Saturday Standstill - Saban Talkback V6

[MadMan400096]

I should note that during Digimon Fusion alone, I saw the exact same toy commercial (for a Marvel toy) four times, two times for each of the two breaks. It's not a good sign when even the freakin' commercials have become repetitive...

 

[4Kids4EverFandom]

Also on Digimon fusion i saw a new Short Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal promo. If anybody saw that let us know please.

 

[DonkeyKongSong]

I'm going to get one thing straight:

spidey4545 does not work for Saban. However, he is a very reliable person when it comes to scheduling. He did some stuff back when 4Kids had the block too, and I've seen him give some reports on the Disney, Nick, and CN forums too. However, if he says there aren't going to be any new shows this season, that is disappointing. I suppose Sendokai is being saved for the fall, maybe... but it is a bit disappointing that only two shows on the block are new in March. On that subject, it seemed different last year because they were just starting out and didn't have many big hits yet, nor quick-expiring licenses (Iron Man). I'm still surprised Bolts and Blip stayed on the block, but I doubt they'll renew it when its contract runs out, given its low ratings.

Anyway, schedule time:

Vortexx Schedule: March 29, 2014
7:00 AM Rescue Heroes #32 "In the Driver's Seat"
7:30 AM Rescue Heroes #33 "For Better or Curse / Bat's Life"
8:00 AM Sonic X #6 "Techno Teacher"
8:30 AM Bolts and Blip #3 "Little Squeaker"
9:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man #4 "Market Forces"
9:30 AM Justice League Unlimited #68 "The Doomsday Sanction"
10:00 AM Dragon Ball Z Kai #73 "The Super Namekian Powers Up! Piccolo vs. Android 17!"
10:30 AM Digimon Fusion #263 "The Rival Champions!" US Broadcast TV Premiere Episode
11:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! #66 "Mime Control - Part 2"
11:30 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL #103 "Barian Vengeance - Part 1" World Premiere English Dub Episode

 

[Light Lucario]

I have no idea why they would save any show for the fall. If it was summer, that could be more reasonable and the lineup being full of primarily reruns wouldn't be as lazy either, but this is March. Fall won't be for another six months away. If they had new shows available to air now, which they do, along with their library of Power Ranger and Digimon seasons, they could easily put them on the lineup to provide something new besides the required Zexal premiere and Digimon Fusion. But that would require effort.

 

[gmster]

I should note that during Digimon Fusion alone, I saw the exact same toy commercial (for a Marvel toy) four times, two times for each of the two breaks. It's not a good sign when even the freakin' commercials have become repetitive...

Yeah, it's not a good sign if they can't clear their ad inventory to more than a few buyers. Last time I watched the block, even the depressing Gerber Life ads had returned, which often hallmarked Toonzai's final stretch.

 

[Light Lucario]

Yeah, it's not a good sign if they can't clear their ad inventory to more than a few buyers. Last time I watched the block, even the depressing Gerber Life ads had returned, which often hallmarked Toonzai's final stretch.

They still play those ads too, but I thought that they had been around since the block started anyway.

 

[Sonic_Eclipse]

Not sure how much control Saban has over something like this, but it doesn't show much faith in the block when they can't even be bothered to place Vortexx stickers on the packages for the Digimon Fusion and Power Rangers toys and DVDs. That's one way they could be advertising the block.

When Hasbro launched The Hub, they had stickers advertising the network on almost all of their products. Of course it helps that Hasbro owns The Hub, but I can't see how it could cost that much to do this. Even 4Kids did this.

 

[Light Lucario]

Not sure how much control Saban has over something like this, but it doesn't show much faith in the block when they can't even be bothered to place Vortexx stickers on the packages for the Digimon Fusion and Power Rangers toys and DVDs. That's one way they could be advertising the block.

When Hasbro launched The Hub, they had stickers advertising the network on almost all of their products. Of course it helps that Hasbro owns The Hub, but I can't see how it could cost that much to do this. Even 4Kids did this.

I can understand not doing that for Power Rangers when it isn't airing on the block, but they could easily do that for Digimon Fusion toys. Even the 5D's manga volumes still mentions that it's based off the hit show from 4Kids on the back of the cover, even though that never made any sense considering the show's ratings and it makes even less sense now. I don't know if the Zexal manga mentions that the show is on the Vortexx on the back of its volumes since I haven't bought any of the volumes yet.

 

[4Kids4EverFandom]

What ever happened to ed lieu for possibly interviewing Saban Brands Represenatives?

 

[gmster]

They still play those ads too, but I thought that they had been around since the block started anyway.

Toonzai was swamped with them, but they were gone when Saban took over the block. They came back recently.

 

[Joshua Dierickx]

They still play those ads too, but I thought that they had been around since the block started anyway.

They never air Gerber Life ads, and if they do, I never see them at all, they must be on whenever it is during the "Power Card Hour" or "E/I Hour." Otherwise, it is essentially McDonald's; toy companies which promote their line of toys products: Yu-Gi-Oh! and Digimon, and sometimes, WWE toys; cereal products; and anti-bullying commercials, or PSAs, which feature WWE wrestlers (and I literally died of laughter)... Those are mostly the only ones that I see everytime that I watch Vortexx, every Saturday morning.. during the 4 commercial breaks per show (maybe 5 a couple of time, and I've even seen 6 one time)... So I'm watching well over 50 commercial breaks in 5 hours, you're not supposed to have that amount in 5 hours, you should have 20-25, maybe 30 commercials... Is Vortexx that broke? I even saw the amount when Toonzai was around... Is 4Kids TV broke or is that how they can finance, produce, and broadcast new shows compared to back in the 70's through early-to-mid 90's (maybe extremely 2000's), which it was mostly cereal and toy companies giving them money from that, and plus, they had well over 15-20 million viewers week, even the networks will get only a small percentage compared to nowadays which they have to outsource everything from a third party (i.e., 4Kids TV) on "X" channel.. and they broadcast sub par cartoons (besides Justice League Unlimited) and terrible anime (besides Dragonball Z Kai)....

 

[Light Lucario]

What ever happened to ed lieu for possibly interviewing Saban Brands Represenatives?

I'm not sure, but I do remember that he said that his contacts at the CW dried up, or something along those lines at least when he posted about it here. I don't know if he could get a hold of a Saban Brands representative though.

 

[Joshua Dierickx]

I'm going to get one thing straight:

spidey4545 does not work for Saban. However, he is a very reliable person when it comes to scheduling. He did some stuff back when 4Kids had the block too, and I've seen him give some reports on the Disney, Nick, and CN forums too. However, if he says there aren't going to be any new shows this season, that is disappointing. I suppose Sendokai is being saved for the fall, maybe... but it is a bit disappointing that only two shows on the block are new in March. On that subject, it seemed different last year because they were just starting out and didn't have many big hits yet, nor quick-expiring licenses (Iron Man). I'm still surprised Bolts and Blip stayed on the block, but I doubt they'll renew it when its contract runs out, given its low ratings.

Anyway, schedule time:

Vortexx Schedule: March 29, 2014
7:00 AM Rescue Heroes #32 "In the Driver's Seat"
7:30 AM Rescue Heroes #33 "For Better or Curse / Bat's Life"
8:00 AM Sonic X #6 "Techno Teacher"
8:30 AM Bolts and Blip #3 "Little Squeaker"
9:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man #4 "Market Forces"
9:30 AM Justice League Unlimited #68 "The Doomsday Sanction"
10:00 AM Dragon Ball Z Kai #73 "The Super Namekian Powers Up! Piccolo vs. Android 17!"
10:30 AM Digimon Fusion #263 "The Rival Champions!" US Broadcast TV Premiere Episode
11:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! #66 "Mime Control - Part 2"
11:30 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL #103 "Barian Vengeance - Part 1" World Premiere English Dub Episode

Vortexx needs to remove the "Card Hour," Sonic X, and Bolts & Blip. Otherwise I'm down with the schedule, I could careless about their E/I hour with Rescue Heroes, mainly they need 3 hours as the main bare minimum that is required and regulated by the government; however, they will let the local networks and affiliates do this, obviously. Vortexx's airing of Dragonball Z, they will be airing the Buu Saga, is that true? Then I'd doubt that they will cancel it or remove it from their Saturday lineup, because then they will show it reruns later on their block. And how long does this contract last?

Digimon Fusion? Eh. I tried to watch to watch it once, I thought it was a complete joke but that is just me, however, I cannot say for the children these days, they might like their jokes that they're watching. They do not know better. At least it is better than B-Daman Crossfire (they shoot at a target and that was a battle - a major toy cash in). However I might give Digimon Fusion an another try, sometime, who knows?...

I know it is hypothetical but it is beyond 0% and it makes weekday cartoons happen, but I can only wish: I do wish that they had on Pinky & the Brain, Animaniacs, (original) Looney Tunes, The Flintstones, Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Freakazoid, (original) Justice League, Xiaolin Showdown, Scooby-Doo, etc, etc. Maybe 1-2 anime shows on the block, not 5.... I'm sorry, and they're all fair to midland to atrocious.... maybe 1-2 that are good. Otherwise, terrible.

 

[MadMan400096]

Maybe 1-2 anime shows on the block, not 5.... I'm sorry, and they're all fair to midland to atrocious.... maybe 1-2 that are good. Otherwise, terrible.

Trust me, there's better anime out there. Anime quality assurance is equal to that of our own American cartoons.

 

[Sunnydee]

It's unfortunate that we probably won't be seeing anymore new shows this season. But hopefully this leads to a stronger fall schedule. If they can get a new Yu-gi-oh show, new episodes of DBZ Kai, new episodes of Digimon Fusion, and maybe Sendokai Champions, they might be onto something.

They'll probably have to stick with Yu-gi-oh classic, I'm not really sure how to feel about that. Battle City is the best season in my eyes.

So if they get those (and I'm not really confident they can get any of those other than Yu-gi-oh) they'd need 5 more shows beyond those to fill out the block. 2 of which are E/I.

That might be a tall order to fill if they don't keep some of the shows they have on the block right now like Sonic X or Rescue Heroes. But I'd be really impressed if Sonic X, Rescue Heroes, JLU, Spectacular Spider-man, and Bolts and Blip don't make it on the fall schedule.

Although I could see why they would give Spectacular Spider-man a 3rd run.

 

[Joshua Dierickx]

Trust me, there's better anime out there. Anime quality assurance is equal to that of our own American cartoons.

It all depends on the network themselves. Cartoon Network was terrible in 2005-2007, and they had returned since 2009. From 2009-present, it has been great in my eyes, only for a certain few.

Nickelodeon cartoons are hit and miss, and they always have been that, after the "Nick Boom," from 1991-2004, maybe 2005. Nickelodeon has now terrible cartoons that are beyond unintelligent (i.e., Fanboy and Chum Chum)..... Nick has now been going down a downward spiral that I doubt that they can revive from... Live-action shows were excellent and were what saved it, such as: All That, Kenan and Kel, The Amanda Show, Drake & Josh, Clarissa Explains It All, Cousin Skeeter, Ned's Declassified, The Adventures of Pete and Pete, etc, etc. Of course, there were terrible live action shows: Romeo....

Someone is going to admit it: Disney hasn't had a good cartoon in so long that I forgot how good they're are; except for Phineas and Ferb. Disney XD has the best cartoons on any Disney Channel out these days.

Anime quality, yet again depends on the genre, just like American cartoons. Or the network that they're on...

It's unfortunate that we probably won't be seeing anymore new shows this season. But hopefully this leads to a stronger fall schedule. If they can get a new Yu-gi-oh show, new episodes of DBZ Kai, new episodes of Digimon Fusion, and maybe Sendokai Champions, they might be onto something.

They'll probably have to stick with Yu-gi-oh classic, I'm not really sure how to feel about that. Battle City is the best season in my eyes.

So if they get those (and I'm not really confident they can get any of those other than Yu-gi-oh) they'd need 5 more shows beyond those to fill out the block. 2 of which are E/I.2

That might be a tall order to fill if they don't keep some of the shows they have on the block right now like Sonic X or Rescue Heroes. But I'd be really impressed if Sonic X, Rescue Heroes, JLU, Spectacular Spider-man, and Bolts and Blip don't make it on the fall schedule.

Although I could see why they would give Spectacular Spider-man a 3rd run.

Vortexx will not broadcast new shows in the fall?... Wow. I do not know how this will work for this block, I'm talking to you CW and 4Kids... You cannot always rely on Dragonball Z Kai, Yu-Gi-Oh, Digimon Fusion, and Sonic X as your main source of how you get profit and viewers entirely.

I agree that they should keep the Original Yu-Gi-Oh! series but not Zexal, nor should they acquire 5D's ("CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES," YAYYY!!! that was a joke.... it made WWE look real). I think the best one besides the original Yu-Gi-Oh is GX. GX is one of the best Yu-Gi-Oh! franchises out there, besides the original (obviously).

E/I regulations and the minimum amount of hours that need to be on your station whenever you have cartoons, before it can be considered a real station. Someone told me once, that if you do not have the minimum amount of hours for children's programming on your television station, you could lose your license. I thought that was a joke... no wonder there's a decrease in children's programming on local television - whether if its E/I or not - because of the law that they put into place... Other than shows from 8am-noon, they still need to find an hour past 7am to make the E/I regulations and abide by it. Sure, there are the majority that have children's programming every day, from 7am-9am, or from 2pm-4pm (only in some markets or stations), and even if they do not, they will have to broadcast on Saturday morning for three hours. If you look at it: 7am-10am will be the E/I time, and the 10am-noon will be normal schedule, if they were to extended to past noon, maybe 1pm (if they would be able to by local or national networks), even it would balance and bypass the E/I dumb law, for the week.

Shows not on the fall schedule?:

Sonic X - yes, you know how many times it has been on the schedule with reruns? 4-5, maybe 6 times
The Spectacular Spider Man - eh. it has reran season 1 & 2 already, it has already ran its course, but the reruns? I'm mixed on this show anyway, so yes. I did liked it back when it was on Kids' WB when it had premiered, back in 2008. Now I think it has ran its course to extent and it is redundant. I would only leave it on for nostalgia.
Justice League Unlimited - no
Rescue Heroes - no
Bolts & Blips - yes


Spectacular Spider Man is given 3rd run? Yes. More than 3? No. It will not be like Sonic X, which had a major toy and video game product promotions; however, at least it is not like Yu-Gi-Oh! back in early 2000's with the cards, toys, cereal, etc, etc, it was everywhere.. Well Pokemon was too...

 

[Light Lucario]

If you want to discuss how good anime in general can be, please take it to the Anime section or PMs instead of this thread.

Vortexx needs to remove the "Card Hour," Sonic X, and Bolts & Blip. Otherwise I'm down with the schedule, I could careless about their E/I hour with Rescue Heroes, mainly they need 3 hours as the main bare minimum that is required and regulated by the government; however, they will let the local networks and affiliates do this, obviously. Vortexx's airing of Dragonball Z, they will be airing the Buu Saga, is that true? Then I'd doubt that they will cancel it or remove it from their Saturday lineup, because then they will show it reruns later on their block. And how long does this contract last?

They have to keep the Yu-Gi-Oh! hour. They're legally required to air an hour of Yu-Gi-Oh! due to their agreement with Konami and I think the CW as well. I think that the contract lasts until next year or 2016 at the latest. So, they're stuck with the Yu-Gi-Oh! hour, for better or for worse. I agree that they should replace Sonic X and Bolts and Blips though, but they probably won't anytime soon. I don't mind them keeping DBZ Kai on the lineup since the episodes they're re-airing haven't been aired so many times on the block like the rest of the series and the Buu Saga should air eventually.

Digimon Fusion? Eh. I tried to watch to watch it once, I thought it was a complete joke but that is just me, however, I cannot say for the children these days, they might like their jokes that they're watching. They do not know better. At least it is better than B-Daman Crossfire (they shoot at a target and that was a battle - a major toy cash in). However I might give Digimon Fusion an another try, sometime, who knows?...

The dub does tend to add more jokes than there were in the original version. Xros Wars should still be up on Crunchyroll, so you could check out the original version subbed to see if that is more appealing to you. I thought B-Daman Crossfire was okay. It wasn't one of the best toyetic series, but at least it wasn't as bad as the first B-Daman series I saw before on Cartoon Network.

I know it is hypothetical but it is beyond 0% and it makes weekday cartoons happen, but I can only wish: I do wish that they had on Pinky & the Brain, Animaniacs, (original) Looney Tunes, The Flintstones, Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Freakazoid, (original) Justice League, Xiaolin Showdown, Scooby-Doo, etc, etc. Maybe 1-2 anime shows on the block, not 5.... I'm sorry, and they're all fair to midland to atrocious.... maybe 1-2 that are good. Otherwise, terrible.

Most of those series wouldn't fit on the Vortexx anyway. The only ones that could would be Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Justice League and Xialoin Showdown and I doubt that they'd be able to get all of those series.

Vortexx will not broadcast new shows in the fall?... Wow. I do not know how this will work for this block, I'm talking to you CW and 4Kids... You cannot always rely on Dragonball Z Kai, Yu-Gi-Oh, Digimon Fusion, and Sonic X as your main source of how you get profit and viewers entirely.

I agree that they should keep the Original Yu-Gi-Oh! series but not Zexal, nor should they acquire 5D's ("CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES," YAYYY!!! that was a joke.... it made WWE look real). I think the best one besides the original Yu-Gi-Oh is GX. GX is one of the best Yu-Gi-Oh! franchises out there, besides the original (obviously).

Why should they get rid of Zexal? While it is my least favorite series in the franchise, why should they replace one of the two shows that actually has new episodes? As much as I enjoy DM, it is overplayed and I wouldn't mind if it was replaced with either a new episode of Zexal or for Arc-V once they have that ready to air. At least there would be something new on the block. 5D's was actually good and if you're just focused on the annoyingly stupid Internet meme that LK started, then I doubt that you've actually seen the show. GX was good, although much better in the Japanese version than the dub from what I've read, but 5D's was much more than just riding on Duel Runners.

 

[Joshua Dierickx]

If you want to discuss how good anime in general can be, please take it to the Anime section or PMs instead of this thread.

They have to keep the Yu-Gi-Oh! hour. They're legally required to air an hour of Yu-Gi-Oh! due to their agreement with Konami and I think the CW as well. I think that the contract lasts until next year or 2016 at the latest. So, they're stuck with the Yu-Gi-Oh! hour, for better or for worse. I agree that they should replace Sonic X and Bolts and Blips though, but they probably won't anytime soon. I don't mind them keeping DBZ Kai on the lineup since the episodes they're re-airing haven't been aired so many times on the block like the rest of the series and the Buu Saga should air eventually.


The dub does tend to add more jokes than there were in the original version. Xros Wars should still be up on Crunchyroll, so you could check out the original version subbed to see if that is more appealing to you. I thought B-Daman Crossfire was okay. It wasn't one of the best toyetic series, but at least it wasn't as bad as the first B-Daman series I saw before on Cartoon Network.


Most of those series wouldn't fit on the Vortexx anyway. The only ones that could would be Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Justice League and Xialoin Showdown and I doubt that they'd be able to get all of those series.

Why should they get rid of Zexal? While it is my least favorite series in the franchise, why should they replace one of the two shows that actually has new episodes? As much as I enjoy DM, it is overplayed and I wouldn't mind if it was replaced with either a new episode of Zexal or for Arc-V once they have that ready to air. At least there would be something new on the block. 5D's was actually good and if you're just focused on the annoyingly stupid Internet meme that LK started, then I doubt that you've actually seen the show. GX was good, although much better in the Japanese version than the dub from what I've read, but 5D's was much more than just riding on Duel Runners.

I can wish that they eliminated the Yu-Gi-Oh! hour but I can wish, however, it will never leave... Yes; CW legally has to air it, because they're licensed by 4Kids TV and Konami, to air a show that they want to air on "X" network, and then that network airs it. CW has to because they also have a contract just like Konami and 4Kids TV to air until "X" year to broadcast this, and the shows that want to it. Yu-Gi-Oh!, sad but true, they have to air to it - not only by the network - but the company/companies that set in stones. Third, Sonic X and Bolts & Blips should be removed but their toy market is surprisingly still moderately popular, they're not going to be removed their toy market is dwelling less than 200 toys sold... I wish that both of them were deleted and removed from the block for these factors: a) terrible plots, b) reran too many times, c) they've ran its course, and d) the 5-11 demographic doesn't watch them for the main show. Just like Yu-Gi-Oh!, they will have to broadcasted and ran on the block - not just for reruns but for new episodes - as well, however, those new episodes will premiere in the summer or the fall.

I'd told you that they will never fit but they would be a great addition to the block (you have to admit), however, for the majority of these shows at least we still have Boomerang.... I could see Xiaolin showdown, maybe, and if they were to acquire it, they broadcast the new Xiaolin Showdown series. Batman: TAS and Superman: TAS are something that I'll agree with you. It will be cost worthy but CW cannot be talking about DBZ Kai....

In my opinion, the plot for Zexal is terrible and it makes no logical sense (5D's makes more sense...), because a spirit has to guide and help him on his journey to be best duel out there? Aside from the plot, the battles are terrible and they are stereotypical anime fight that the general population always has to make fun or mock... no joke. they say something, the camera goes to the villain, then a second later heroes, and then everyone is surprised! or, there's too much and then someone says some about the duel to try to be intelligent...

B-Daman was on Cartoon Network?... o.0
Xros Wars should be on Crunchyroll, because Crunchyroll is one of the best destinations to find anime that you haven't seen in a long time or you just discovered. Well, besides going online and going to an obscure website.... so yeah...

However I've seen 3-4 episodes of 5D's and I thought it was boring and hated before the hate on it from people, videos, and memes. I love the memes because they were enjoyable and were what made the show enjoyable (in my own opinion).

 

[Light Lucario]

I can wish that they eliminated the Yu-Gi-Oh! hour but I can wish, however, it will never leave... Yes; CW legally has to air it, because they're licensed by 4Kids TV and Konami, to air a show that they want to air on "X" network, and then that network airs it. CW has to because they also have a contract just like Konami and 4Kids TV to air until "X" year to broadcast this, and the shows that want to it. Yu-Gi-Oh!, sad but true, they have to air to it - not only by the network - but the company/companies that set in stones. Third, Sonic X and Bolts & Blips should be removed but their toy market is surprisingly still moderately popular, they're not going to be removed their toy market is dwelling less than 200 toys sold... I wish that both of them were deleted and removed from the block for these factors: a) terrible plots, b) reran too many times, c) they've ran its course, and d) the 5-11 demographic doesn't watch them for the main show. Just like Yu-Gi-Oh!, they will have to broadcasted and ran on the block - not just for reruns but for new episodes - as well, however, those new episodes will premiere in the summer or the fall.

Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't licensed by 4Kids anymore. I thought that the reason it was forced to air on the CW was due to an agreement Konami and the CW made when they got the license in order to get the money that 4Kids couldn't give them, or something along those lines. I don't know how much Sonic X or Bolts and Blips do in the toy market. I could see Sonic doing well in merchandise, but I don't think that's the reason it is staying on the block. I think it's more likely that it's just cheaper for Saban to air it since they own the rights to Sonic X. I'm not sure about why Bolts and Blips are on the lineup. Honestly, at least Yu-Gi-Oh! does produce new series, so keeping it on the block isn't as bad as say reruns of a show that ended years ago.

In my opinion, the plot for Zexal is terrible and it makes no logical sense (5D's makes more sense...), because a spirit has to guide and help him on his journey to be best duel out there? Aside from the plot, the battles are terrible and they are stereotypical anime fight that the general population always has to make fun or mock... no joke. they say something, the camera goes to the villain, then a second later heroes, and then everyone is surprised! or, there's too much and then someone says some about the duel to try to be intelligent...

That's not really the plot for Zexal. Astral isn't even a spirit, even though I could see why you'd get that impression, and he isn't there to guide Yuma to become the best duelist out there. The first half is focused on finding Numbers, which are pieces of Astral's memories, and the second half is focused on the conflict between the Barian and Astral worlds. While Zexal is my least favorite series, I will give it credit in that it has a pretty solid structure to its storyline and by that I mean that it doesn't make up stuff as it goes along as much as the other spin-off series did. I will agree that the duels are pretty bad, but that's primarily to the bad and repetitive writing that goes with them.

B-Daman was on Cartoon Network?... o.0
Xros Wars should be on Crunchyroll, because Crunchyroll is one of the best destinations to find anime that you haven't seen in a long time or you just discovered. Well, besides going online and going to an obscure website.... so yeah...

I'm pretty sure that there was a B-Daman show on Cartoon Network. Unless an obscure website is also an official legal site like Crunchyroll is, I would advise not to mention it here since that's against the rules.

However I've seen 3-4 episodes of 5D's and I thought it was boring and hated before the hate on it from people, videos, and memes. I love the memes because they were enjoyable and were what made the show enjoyable (in my own opinion).

Speaking as someone who has seen all of 5D's, if I never hear that motorcycle meme again, it will be too soon. I absolutely hate it and I find it incredibly annoying, but that's primarily because of how often I've heard it over the years. I don't know which version you saw, but if you haven't seen the subbed version, I'd recommend giving that a try. Most of the series is available subbed on Hulu and the rest should be available at some point, so you can see if it's more appealing to you in that version if you like.

 

[spidey4545]

I'm pretty sure that there was a B-Daman show on Cartoon Network.

Battle B-Daman aired first on ABC Family/Toon Disney in 2005 and then on Cartoon Network in early 2006.