zatch bell

[Light Lucario]

I hope that they don't put Zatch Bell on Jetstream. I do have a Mac computer so I wouldn't be able to get it at all, as well as probably a lot of other people who are in the same boat. I enjoyed watching it on Toonami, but I don't think that I got into it until repeats starting showing on Miguzi.

I could really see Zatch Bell working well in the 8 or 9 o'clock hour, as I believe it has been there before and did pretty well.

 

[D Dubbs]

I hope that they don't put Zatch Bell on Jetstream. I do have a Mac computer so I wouldn't be able to get it at all, as well as probably a lot of other people who are in the same boat. I enjoyed watching it on Toonami, but I don't think that I got into it until repeats starting showing on Miguzi.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the run on Miguzi didn't do too well.

And yes it does suck for you Mac owners. If AS Video can support Macs, I don't see why Jetstream can't. The guys at Williams Street need to get working on that.

 

[Light Lucario]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the run on Miguzi didn't do too well.

And yes it does suck for you Mac owners. If AS Video can support Macs, I don't see why Jetstream can't. The guys at Williams Street need to get working on that.

I'm actually not sure how its run on Miguzi did. That was really the first time I honestly watched episodes from this series. For some reason, I didn't really watch Zatch Bell when it started on Toonami. But once I watched a couple of repeat episodes, I thought that it was a pretty fun series to watch.

You're so right about Jetstream for Mac users. I bet that a lot more people would access it if Jetstream allowed Mac computers too. I definately would check out a good amount of their episodes, especially since I'm on summer break.

 

[Gary L Thompson]

Did zatch bell have good tv ratings before it went on hiatus?

It's been theorized that the ratings saw a drop mid 2006 because they moved it to post Naruto and people tend to believe that slot is used to give shows a boost. They got the schedule a little messed up in it's last airings but they did have it air 2 premieres for a couple of weeks in 2006 so it must have been doing okay. They didn't leave on the season break either which lead me to believe Viz didn't give them 79+ yet but they did have 80 scheduled at one point. So it's really hard to say. I imagine it would be of a higher priority to get back on the line-up than MÄR and PoT but now that it's also on Jetstream maybe that isn't the case. We'll just have to wait and see but by now they should definently have up to 104 dubbed if not more.

I think the remaining episodes will be dumped on Jetstream since they're currently testing repeats there. That's a shame, but it's better than being dumped at 5am like Cyborg 009 and Hakusho.

Not for people who can't access Jetstream. Such as those with no internet or very slow internet... or those who have a Mac.

It'd be such a shame if Zatch Bell never comes back. I mean it had toys, video games, a card game, manga and DVDs. So you'd think Viz would fight tooth and nail to make sure it comes back but maybe they lost interest. We should know soon enough though. Zatch Bell has just about caught up to 77 on YTV in Canada. If they surpass that then we'll at least know if they have more episodes ready to air. The question is, will CN try to beat YTV to the punch if they can? If they plan to the Zatch Bell will need to be back soon.

i was thinking also that it might be dumped on jetstream but i hope it will come back on cartoon netowork or any other tv station because also on the 77th episode they had a preview for the 78th so.....

I hope that they don't put Zatch Bell on Jetstream. I do have a Mac computer so I wouldn't be able to get it at all, as well as probably a lot of other people who are in the same boat. I enjoyed watching it on Toonami, but I don't think that I got into it until repeats starting showing on Miguzi.

I could really see Zatch Bell working well in the 8 or 9 o'clock hour, as I believe it has been there before and did pretty well.

Unfortunately, I fall into the category of viewers that have no Internet access that would permit TV viewing.

Looks like CN is going to destroy the monumentum of "Zatch Bell" just like they did "Yu Yu Hakasho". What stirs me to fury is that it is totally unnecessary.

Absolute proof of this: the predecessor and successor of "Konjiki no Gash Bell" in its time slot back in Japan: "Digimon". Fox's approach (largely followed by Disney in the final season) was to dub episodes of that year's season as Japan started making them in April, and finish the last episodes in May, just barely weeks ahead of the original season in Japan. That approach has meant that the four seasons of "Digimon" have been steadily rerunning seven days a week for the most part, ever since "Digimon" first aired in America.

The entire run of "Konjiki no Gash Bell" was pretty much in the can before it even started airing in America. If CN had pressed for the entire run to be pretty much dubbed before airing it over five days a week; or even if it had handled "Zatch Bell" the same way "Digimon" was handled, each year of episodes completed within a year of airing the show in America: I am absolutely convinced that "Zatch Bell" would be as much a rerun staple as "Digimon" is today.

This stupid approach by CN is liable to kill interest in anime sooner or later, at least the typical long-running Shonen Jump series. Why would anyone want to get hooked into a story if he and she has little hope of finding out how it ends?

 

[Sketch]

Well Zatch Bell is in the can but it isn't "complete" unfortunately. That may be exactly the reason CN stopped airing it or the reason Viz may have stopped dubbing it to focus on other projects. One or both of those could be occuring right now, we'll know which one when Canada catches up to us. If they go into reruns then it's probably Viz's fault if they keep trucking then well... CN blew it.

Though having "no ending" didn't stop CN before and they're still airing Bo-Bobo without fail. So it's rather bothersome. Perhaps they're building up premiere stock to run it on weekdays but if that were the case then they'd be airing reruns on weekdays (like they should be doing anyway). Digimon has lasted this long because it's pretty much always been on. That's also why DBZ has lasted this long. But also they're both series that attract kids, tweens and teens quite well so they never lacked an audience. I never saw any reason to believe ZB wasn't cutting the mustard. So it doesn't make much sense at all. I didn't think the Miguzi run did poorly but maybe it did and that's why they wont air it on weekdays but for now all we can do is speculate.

The optomist in me wants to believe it'll be back in July though.

But to this day I never quite understand why YYH wasn't able to return full force in 2005. When they desperately needed something interesting to play besides JLU, Teen Titans and Zatch Bell. It should have at least run at 10:30PM rather than an hour of 4kids One Piece. I can't imagine it did that poorly early in 2005 to warrent banishment. Gundam SEED was obviously not working and Kenshin's license ran out but YYH... there's still not enough information to say if that was or wasn't a smart move on CN's part. I think it could have come back swinging but obviously CN didn't. But with how well it did for a couple of years it's shocking that is just dried up instantly like that. If it really did anyway.

Really now, while having constant premieres is nice it seems like having once a week slots without reruns is pretty much sabotage to Toonami content. As if a great many series just don't fit CN's ideals so they get rid of them. And then they bring in shows like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! GX and continue to play Teen Titans into the ground in that 8PM slot. One must wonder... would YYH have finished if CN kept Toonami on weekdays? Would Zatch Bell have ever dissapeared if Toonami was on weekdays? Would MÄR and PoT still be on right now?

Sure there's less time to play with but when does Toonami ever use all 4 hours well anyway? With a 2-3 hour weekday block they could probably get the same amount of work done. Though we'd have a pickle with Naruto since it has a tight dubbing schedule for certain but that's nothing a once a week premiere slot on Friday couldn't fix. Or we could have just done things the DBZ way I guess... Eh... it's too much to ponder.

 

[RockmanDash]

Well the only thing I can think of is that Zatch comes back when Bobobo is over which will be around December. Maybe Zatch is just taking a year break?(Which would be kinda terrible but..)

 

[Sketch]

It'll take a lot more pre-emptions before Bo-Bobo will last till December. I'd give it to November at the latest but more likely October.

 

[Gary L Thompson]

Digimon has lasted this long because it's pretty much always been on. That's also why DBZ has lasted this long.

Precisely my point. If the product is fairly good, and you've got good episode count, the show is never going to go off the air. If it does go off the air, people forget about it. It's as simple as that.

I never saw any reason to believe ZB wasn't cutting the mustard. So it doesn't make much sense at all. I didn't think the Miguzi run did poorly but maybe it did and that's why they wont air it on weekdays but for now all we can do is speculate.

The optomist in me wants to believe it'll be back in July though.

But to this day I never quite understand why YYH wasn't able to return full force in 2005. When they desperately needed something interesting to play besides JLU, Teen Titans and Zatch Bell. It should have at least run at 10:30PM rather than an hour of 4kids One Piece. I can't imagine it did that poorly early in 2005 to warrent banishment. Gundam SEED was obviously not working and Kenshin's license ran out but YYH... there's still not enough information to say if that was or wasn't a smart move on CN's part. I think it could have come back swinging but obviously CN didn't. But with how well it did for a couple of years it's shocking that is just dried up instantly like that. If it really did anyway.

Really now, while having constant premieres is nice it seems like having once a week slots without reruns is pretty much sabotage to Toonami content. As if a great many series just don't fit CN's ideals so they get rid of them. And then they bring in shows like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! GX and continue to play Teen Titans into the ground in that 8PM slot. One must wonder... would YYH have finished if CN kept Toonami on weekdays? Would Zatch Bell have ever dissapeared if Toonami was on weekdays? Would MÄR and PoT still be on right now?

Sure there's less time to play with but when does Toonami ever use all 4 hours well anyway? With a 2-3 hour weekday block they could probably get the same amount of work done. Though we'd have a pickle with Naruto since it has a tight dubbing schedule for certain but that's nothing a once a week premiere slot on Friday couldn't fix. Or we could have just done things the DBZ way I guess... Eh... it's too much to ponder.

I wouldn't hazard a guess on whether a weekday block would make a difference. However, the recent decision by CN (for the first time in its history) to abandon its traditional commitment it always had to some type of late-afternoon weekday action block has to throw a bit of a shadow on the long-term viability of Toonami and Adult Swim (the non-comedy part, anyway), because if CN gets out of the habit of weekday action reruns, that's going to weaken the reinforcement of the weekly blocks. I mean, CN only have a 7-8 p.m. block now weekdays, with only one show "Pokemon" running five days-a-week. When are long-running action shows going to rerun daily now, if they are on Toonami instead of Adult Swim (as an aside regarding the latter, I can't help but note that "Inuyasha" aired constantly since its premiere on AS, and as a consequence seems to have settled in as a solid evergreen for CN)?

I can't help but note, in regard to the current lineup of Toonami in general, that the "appointment" show seems in danger of extinction on Toonami. You have "Naruto" in full flower, certainly. And Toonami seems to have almost miraculously salvaged "One Piece". But besides "Yu-Gi-Oh GX" (which deliberately ramped down the melodrama of the original in favor of a more farcical approach), what other shows now give the audience a reason to tune in every single week? With shows like "MAR", "Prince of Tennis", "Zatch Bell", IGPX, etc. missing from the schedule, Toonami is now predominated by shows the likes of "Bo-Bobo" (its theoretical story of quest and battle is really nothing but an excuse on which to hang a lot of ridiculous gags), "Batman" and "Teen Titans" (not only episodic, but only reruns now), "Fantastic Four" (at least it's new, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't turn out as episodic as the other ones). Well, there's DBZ, but I doubt there's anyone left that the show would interest above the age of eight who hasn't already seen these episodes a few dozen times before. Shows like "MAR" and POT at least injected the block some badly-needed new blood.

 

[Light Lucario]

I can't help but note, in regard to the current lineup of Toonami in general, that the "appointment" show seems in danger of extinction on Toonami. You have "Naruto" in full flower, certainly. And Toonami seems to have almost miraculously salvaged "One Piece". But besides "Yu-Gi-Oh GX" (which deliberately ramped down the melodrama of the original in favor of a more farcical approach), what other shows now give the audience a reason to tune in every single week? With shows like "MAR", "Prince of Tennis", "Zatch Bell", IGPX, etc. missing from the schedule, Toonami is now predominated by shows the likes of "Bo-Bobo" (its theoretical story of quest and battle is really nothing but an excuse on which to hang a lot of ridiculous gags), "Batman" and "Teen Titans" (not only episodic, but only reruns now), "Fantastic Four" (at least its new, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't turn out as episodic as the other ones). Well, there's DBZ, but I doubt there's anyone left that the show would interest above the age of eight who hasn't already seen these episodes a few dozen times before. Shows like "MAR" and POT at least injected the block some badly-needed new blood.

That is very true. Toonami's line-up is mostly depended on Naruto right now. I know that there are fans of Bo^7 as well, but obviously, Naruto has higher ratings. I personally watch Toonami for Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, as its a favorite show of mine (not as good as the DM series though) and I'm honestly not drawn into their other programs. I would watch MAR and PoT when they were on, but they're off the line-up currently. Its really a shame because Toonami does need to have some new shows. They could easily put a different show where they have repeats of Teen Titans, but I heard that they do that when in need of ratings.

 

[RockmanDash]

>_> so if Zatch does not come back I guess I am just going to have to watch the subs(which would stink if you ask me)

I really hope Toonami surprises us with Zatch comeing back( wait has anybody ever tryed emailing the voice of Zatch and see if she has done any episodes of Zatch after the return of brago and sherry?)

 

[Gary L Thompson]

That is very true. Toonami's line-up is mostly depended on Naruto right now. I know that there are fans of Bo^7 as well, but obviously, Naruto has higher ratings. I personally watch Toonami for Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, as its a favorite show of mine (not as good as the DM series though) and I'm honestly not drawn into their other programs. I would watch MAR and PoT when they were on, but they're off the line-up currently. Its really a shame because Toonami does need to have some new shows. They could easily put a different show where they have repeats of Teen Titans, but I heard that they do that when in need of ratings.

I wasn't expressing a dislike for Bo^7, just highlighting the obvious fact that if you miss an episode this week, you're not going to really miss anything. The same can be said for "Teen Titans." However, if you miss an episode of "Naruto", "One Piece" or even GX, you're going to miss out on some story developments, so the lure to watch every week is stronger. I mean, even if they aired the 4Kids "Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles" (even though that storyline is stalled while they're occupied with "Fast Forward"), you'd have a stronger overall storyline than in some of the shows they're airing now.

And for the record, I like GX, it's just not as involving show as Duel Monsters (not that it's necessarily a bad idea to do a more farcical approach as a foil for DM's melodrama, but it just doesn't keep you glued to the same channel week after week).

 

[Arek]

Speaking of DM, why was it given the boot?

 

[Sketch]

Come now Gary... We all know 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles puts nearly everything Toonami has ever aired to shame in making a high quality continuity heavy action series with a nice mix of comedy, action and drama. Very few of the shows Toonami has ever aired compares to it in my opinion but some do. It would be more than welcome on the current Toonami or any Toonami for that matter.

It's not quite certain why DM dissapeared Arek. They could at least be airing the reruns somewhere right now. But it seems they cut it off with 1 or a few episodes remaining. Frankly... I blame Pokemon Chronicles as it was the series that booted it initially and it hasn't been seen since. It was a fun show to start the night off with but I guess since there weren't many episodes left and it wasn't ever a break-out success that CN probably figured they didn't need to bother airing it anymore.

 

[Wonrei567]

sososososososososoosososo

is it cancelled or not?????

 

[RomanMack]

Nobody knows yet.

 

[J'onn J'onzz]

How many more times are you going to bump this thread?

 

[RockmanDash]

How many more times are you going to bump this thread?

I guess untill we hear if Zatch is in the can or not

 

[J'onn J'onzz]

I guess untill we hear if Zatch is in the can or not

Mr. Owl, how many bumps does it take to get to the revival of Zatch Bell?
One... Two... Three!
Alas, the world may never know.

 

[bayoab]

Live from Anime-Expo:
Zatch Bell is on hiatus but will be returning to TV eventually.

 

[Sketch]

I heard that one before.... Right before a show ends up in a death slot. But Viz poored too much money in Zatch Bell to call the quits now. But it'll probably be back in Fall. But what about PoT and MÄR?