WBD Acquisition Thread

I don't want to sound mean but it seems for me that you are overreacting too much.
Yeah, you can take a calm and measured reaction to every bit of news that comes out. Whatever they're doing here seems like they're yelling "The sky is falling!".

But it looks like banks and credit agencies could even see that the WarnerDiscovery pursuit isn't really financially digestible and the Ellisons went to preempt the agencies from lowering down Skydance's credit ratings by any means possible:

"It began as a concession in private conversations to assuage wary credit analysts looking at Paramount Skydance Corp.’s blockbuster takeover of Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.: a verbal pledge by the Ellison family to do whatever it takes to slash debt at the combined company.

Then Wall Street forced it into the open.

To ease those concerns, Paramount Chief Executive Officer David Ellison privately promised ratings agencies including S&P Global Ratings that the family — which controls Paramount — would step in to tame leverage at the merged entity. The credit graders then pushed for that commitment to be made public and sure enough, Paramount revealed it in a regulatory filing last week.

“It was a verbal comment from David Ellison,” said Naveen Sarma, sector lead for US media and telecom at S&P. “I think all the agencies, and certainly us, insisted on a public disclosure as well.”

Yet the public disclosure proved decisive for S&P, which viewed the wealthy family’s backstop as a tacit commitment to inject additional capital if needed.

While S&P has said it expects to lower the post-merger company’s rating by one notch to BB, Sarma noted that without the family’s backstop, the expected rating would have gone down by two notches.

“When we came up with our rating, the disclosure on the leverage commitment and the potential for them to do equity, if they need, was a very strong part of that,” Sarma said. “From our standpoint, it’s a pretty powerful statement.”

In Paramount’s May 19 filing — which detailed other elements of the deal’s financing — the company added a section titled “Commitment to Deleveraging.” It disclosed that it told certain ratings agencies it was “Paramount’s and its controlling stockholder’s plan and commitment” to reduce leverage at the combined company to specified targets over the coming years.

Paramount expects the entity’s net debt to sit at 4.3 times earnings at closing, before dropping to three times within three years via cost-cutting and other synergies. But analysts are skeptical that these measures alone can achieve such targets.

“Based on what we know about the industry, and using a rough calculation, we don’t think their target for net debt can be reached only by improving profit margins,” said Wunmi Adekanmbi, an analyst at Fitch Ratings. “We assume they are also planning to pay down some debt.”

Fitch expects gross debt — meaning total debt before subtracting cash on hand — to be about seven times annual cash earnings after the merger, though Adekanmbi said that number could fall after accounting for the deal’s savings and efficiencies.

CreditSights, meanwhile, said earlier this month that post-merger leverage could rise to about five times annual cash earnings, which its analysts deemed a “frightening level.”

“The structure introduces complications that investors might be a little wary to deal with,” said Jim Fitzpatrick, head of US investment grade research at Allspring Global Investments. “They’re going to have to make this quite attractive to build a book that’s going to be able to handle the size they want to get done.”"


I'm not surprised if Oracle taking on large amounts of debt for its AI & data center buildout investments with OpenAI was a factor in this, considering its stock is used as loan collateral for the pursuit.
 
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I have a very serious feeling that the combined company won't survive for long.

Considering what happens nowadays with the AI bubble popping slowly and the U.S.-Iran conflict, I would say that probably Ellison would sell back WBD or spin it off in order to reduce its debt, as they sacrifice Oracle's stock for it as well.

It's not the first time this would happen. Remember how Turner bought MGM in March 1986, to sell it back 5 months later due to the massive debt that was on Turner's shoulders?

That's why a situation like that will be pretty surprising to see.
 
I have a very serious feeling that the combined company won't survive for long.

Considering what happens nowadays with the AI bubble popping slowly and the U.S.-Iran conflict, I would say that probably Ellison would sell back WBD or spin it off in order to reduce its debt.

It's not the first time this would happen. Remember how Turner bought MGM in March 1986, to sell it back 5 months later due to the massive debt that was on Turner's shoulders?

That's why a situation like that will be pretty surprising to see.
Cosidering that Warner seems to carry "bad luck" and whoever buys it ends to have financial issues, yeah, I'd be not surprised if Paramount ends to have said financial issues after the merge. Especially if the AI bubble bursts.
 
If that is the case, will WB ever get all of their library back? I can't deal with the idea of several projects getting canceled.
 
Considering that Warner seems to carry "bad luck" and whoever buys it ends to have financial issues, yeah, I'd be not surprised if Paramount ends to have said financial issues after the merge. Especially if the AI bubble bursts.
Well, they were in bad shape even before the bidding began.
 
I have a very serious feeling that the combined company won't survive for long.

Considering what happens nowadays with the AI bubble popping slowly and the ongoing Middle East conflict, I would say that probably Ellison would sell back WBD or spin it off in order to reduce its debt, as they sacrifice Oracle's stock for it as well.

It's not the first time this would happen. Remember how Turner bought MGM in March 1986, to sell it back 5 months later due to the massive debt that was on Turner's shoulders?

That's why a situation like that will be pretty surprising to see.
When Ted Turner spun off MGM into a separate company in 1986, he still kept the majority of the pre-1986 MGM library (which has been fully retained by Time Warner Communications, AOL Time Warner, Time Warner, WarnerMedia and Warner Bros. Discovery in that order since then).
 
In Turner's case it made a lot of sense (and considering how smart Turner was and what he did later with the library), but what sense would have for Ellison if let's say, they keep only the libraries?

WBD would end up in obscurity in that case as how MGM ended. Not really obscurity, but very unpopular? Probably.

And maybe even in a potential bankruptcy as how MGM used to be in early 2010s.
 
Watch Paramount close the merger this year. It’s happening. Our safeguards and antitrust efforts have failed. WBD will officially die this year. It’s over. Warner Archive is shutting down forever.
 
I have a very serious feeling that the combined company won't survive for long.

Considering what happens nowadays with the AI bubble popping slowly and the U.S.-Iran conflict, I would say that probably Ellison would sell back WBD or spin it off in order to reduce its debt, as they sacrifice Oracle's stock for it as well.

It's not the first time this would happen. Remember how Turner bought MGM in March 1986, to sell it back 5 months later due to the massive debt that was on Turner's shoulders?

That's why a situation like that will be pretty surprising to see.
But ultimately, David Ellison will be another Kirk Kerkorian in the books because he has no prior experience of actually running a major company at all and has made a lot of sloppy moves so far.

Well, they were in bad shape even before the bidding began.
At least, Zaslav and Wiedenfels did whittle down the debt load over time. Skydance's barely done anything similar to Paramount Global's debt load at all.
and also, when will the ai bubble burst, because this is crossing the line and needs to go now
With an abundance of news coverage on AI investments consuming a lot of debt, we're no doubt running into it eventually.

It's just a matter of timing but I guess the U.S. regional war potentially escalating things to another level could easily accelerate the calendar.
 
i've generally been more under the impression that the merger's undoing, should it get to the point of not closing, will be bureaucratic red tape slowing it to a crawl rather than a full blown block from a governmental body
 
Cord Cutters News has been sharing misinformation, where the merger was in the approval stages, when, as of yesterday, it's not.

That and AI-generated hybrid old and new CN and Nick logos. Eugh.
 
All of the worries about Looney Tunes?!

Not to forget that Looney Tunes was aired on Nickelodeon before in the 80s until the 90s, and there were promos of it, and even Nickelodeon used to be owned by Warner in the 80s before being sold to Viacom.

Cord Cutters News has been sharing misinformation, where the merger was in the approval stages, when, as of yesterday, it's not.

That and AI-generated hybrid old and new CN and Nick logos. Eugh.
Cord Cutters News nowadays are having misinformation and using AI and ChatGPT, that's weird. From now on, we'll not rely on this website after putting CN and Nick logos in the AI and customized/fanmade styles.
 
Melania sequel and Rush Hour cinematic universe in the works! David Ellison will consolidate. Warner Archive will shut down forever. Paramount+ is their future. RIP physical media.

DOJ officially approves merger! Ellison now owns Warner Bros and cancels AND erases Looney Tunes

Block the merger, this is bad. Help!
All I’m hearing here are speculations about what will happen, like you can only speculate they’ll erase Looney Tunes or that Warner Archive will shut down. I’m just saying, can we stop jumping to conclusions? The deal isn’t even finalized yet, and most people are acting like this will be the end of everything.

Let’s just wait and see if the merger gets approved, and then give Paramount around 7-8 months to see how they manage it.
 
i've generally been more under the impression that the merger's undoing, should it get to the point of not closing, will be bureaucratic red tape slowing it to a crawl rather than a full blown block from a governmental body
It’s just that Ellison is trying to get this merger closed as soon as July or September, which is too quick. Disney/Fox took longer than that.
 
It should be noted that if Ellison didn't think the conditions were right , he wouldn't be doing it in the first place. He knows that there are ways to get smooth to get a deal, that he wouldn't get with different people. Remember the Nexstar purchase of Tegna was done illegally and way earlier than it was supposed to be finished. The FCC chairman did it without following the law and he can't change ownership laws .Only congress can. The thing that luckily happened there is the lawsuits were filed first and there wasn't enough time for Nexstar to pretty much make it hard to break up.

Here, the conditions are right and there is a higher change of a rubber stamp forget the laws and proper conditions not being met. Why did they pick October? Elections are coming in November, and new congress in January might be much more oversight-y than what is there now. No one should be thinking the merger won't be approved, they should be thinking and acting as if it will be and the time to start suing and get in there before. Because Ellison and people will move quickly to make sure that once approval happens they will make sure it will be hard to tear apart if a court changes things. Nexstar did the same thing, that Friday the court made a decision was the closest because they were going quick into absorbing Tegna.


The people who want to challenge it have shot clock and need to work on it , make an iron case enough to get it slowed down. My main point is don't think that this is a normal merger attempt with normal actors and normal processes, it's not.



But ultimately, David Ellison will be another Kirk Kerkorian in the books because he has no prior experience of actually running a major company at all and has made a lot of sloppy moves so far.
Always glad I figured him out pretty early back when the bids for Paramount were happening in the first place. And was against him owning Paramount.
 
I worry this will be the most fast tracked merger in history. CNN folding into CBS News will mean the death of independent journalism.
 

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