"Tiny Toons Looniversity" News & Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Prgiordano]

Tiny Toons Looniversity is a reboot, not a continuation. Therefore, what happened in the first series has no bearing on what happens in this one. TTL isn't a sequel to Tiny Toon Adventures. Rather, it takes place as though the first series never happened. It's just like how in the Tenchi Muyo! OVA Washu is Ryoko and Ryo-Ohki's creator, but in Tenchi Universe she isn't.

I don't ship characters, so Buster and Babs being reimagined as twin siblings doesn't bother me in the slightest, and speaking as a twin, I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't a little bit intrigued by this new angle.

But it's still reimagining things from past franchise installments and making moments from them awkward in the process.
Like their cameo in the Noah's ark segment from the original Animaniacs where they use their catchphrase on him, and resulted in him replying, "let's hope not, it's a children's show."
It would also be like if Mickey & Minnie's relationship was reimagined so that they were siblings after almost a century of iconic courtship.

 

[cristian12345678]

what happens in tiny toon adventures,stay in tiny toon adventures

 

[Goldstar!]

But it's still reimagining things from past franchise installments and making moments from them awkward in the process.
Like their cameo in the Noah's ark segment from the original Animaniacs where they use their catchphrase on him, and resulted in him replying, "let's hope not, it's a children's show."

This is beginning to remind of how some folks (not a lot, mind you, but enough) were really upset about how some of the old Hanna-Barbera characters got gender flipped for Jellystone! They acted like C.H. Greenblatt was disrespecting the H-B franchise and giving a big middle finger to the memories of Bill and Joe by doing so, but for me, it was nothing worth getting upset over. In fact, in most cases, I actually preferred the female versions of the characters. Maybe I'm just weird like that, but Mr. Greenblatt's creative decision didn't bother me, and neither does this.

It would also be like if Mickey & Minnie's relationship was reimagined so that they were siblings after almost a century of iconic courtship.

No, it wouldn't, because Buster and Babs are nowhere near as iconic as Mickey and Minnie Mouse. Not even close. That's like suggesting that The Tick is right up there with Superman. He isn't. Characters like Superman, Batman and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have been reimagined several times over the decades. By contrast, Buster and Babs have only been in one other series before this one. Those characters haven't been around nearly long enough for there to be one definitive take on them. Why bother rebooting a show if you're do everything exactly the same? The 2017 DuckTales reboot didn't just copy the 1987 syndicated series, and the reboot was a much better show because of it. Babs and Buster can be whatever the smeg their creators want them to be because they're fictional characters.

Don't watch the new show if you don't like it and stick to the original if that's what you prefer. That's my only advice regarding this.

 

[AdrenalineRush1996]

They weren't related in the first place.

Which is why this is a case of "related in the adaptation".

 

[JMTV]

This is beginning to remind of how some folks (not a lot, mind you, but enough) were really upset about how some of the old Hanna-Barbera characters got gender flipped for Jellystone! They acted like C.H. Greenblatt was disrespecting the H-B franchise and giving a big middle finger to the memories of Bill and Joe by doing so, but for me, it was nothing worth getting upset over. In fact, in most cases, I actually preferred the female versions of the characters. Maybe I'm just weird like that, but Mr. Greenblatt's creative decision didn't bother me, and neither does this.

With me, I couldn't care less that some of Hanna Barbara characters getting gender-swapped. All I care about is the show entertaining. With Jellystone, it didn't really do it for me, in my opinion.

People need to understand that not every show has to geared towards us as they are geared towards a new generation of kids.

If ya don't like it? Fine. Just don't watch it and move on.

 

[Prgiordano]

This is beginning to remind of how some folks (not a lot, mind you, but enough) were really upset about how some of the old Hanna-Barbera characters got gender flipped for Jellystone! They acted like C.H. Greenblatt was disrespecting the H-B franchise and giving a big middle finger to the memories of Bill and Joe by doing so, but for me, it was nothing worth getting upset over. In fact, in most cases, I actually preferred the female versions of the characters. Maybe I'm just weird like that, but Mr. Greenblatt's creative decision didn't bother me, and neither does this.



No, it wouldn't, because Buster and Babs are nowhere near as iconic as Mickey and Minnie Mouse. Not even close. That's like suggesting that The Tick is right up there with Superman. He isn't. Characters like Superman, Batman and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have been reimagined several times over the decades. By contrast, Buster and Babs have only been in one other series before this one. Those characters haven't been around nearly long enough for there to be one definitive take on them. Why bother rebooting a show if you're do everything exactly the same? The 2017 DuckTales reboot didn't just copy the 1987 syndicated series, and the reboot was a much better show because of it. Babs and Buster can be whatever the smeg their creators want them to be because they're fictional characters.

Don't watch the new show if you don't like it and stick to the original if that's what you prefer. That's my only advice regarding this.

I never said I wouldn't watch it, and I wasn't taking into account their popularity with Mickey & Minnie. I was just trying to provide a comparison that I thought you would understand. All I'm saying is that precedent is being messed with in a way that some people might be a bit uncomfortable with. I might get over it (*might*), but I don't know about other people.

 

[PinkieLopBun]

This is beginning to remind of how some folks (not a lot, mind you, but enough) were really upset about how some of the old Hanna-Barbera characters got gender flipped for Jellystone! They acted like C.H. Greenblatt was disrespecting the H-B franchise and giving a big middle finger to the memories of Bill and Joe by doing so, but for me, it was nothing worth getting upset over. In fact, in most cases, I actually preferred the female versions of the characters. Maybe I'm just weird like that, but Mr. Greenblatt's creative decision didn't bother me, and neither does this.



No, it wouldn't, because Buster and Babs are nowhere near as iconic as Mickey and Minnie Mouse. Not even close. That's like suggesting that The Tick is right up there with Superman. He isn't. Characters like Superman, Batman and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have been reimagined several times over the decades. By contrast, Buster and Babs have only been in one other series before this one. Those characters haven't been around nearly long enough for there to be one definitive take on them. Why bother rebooting a show if you're do everything exactly the same? The 2017 DuckTales reboot didn't just copy the 1987 syndicated series, and the reboot was a much better show because of it. Babs and Buster can be whatever the smeg their creators want them to be because they're fictional characters.

Don't watch the new show if you don't like it and stick to the original if that's what you prefer. That's my only advice regarding this.

I wouldn't really say this is the same as the genderswapping on Jellystone. Despite what some people might think, that wasn't harmful to anyone. Making two characters that previously had romantic moments siblings is a bit different. Even if Buster and Babs aren't as iconic as Mickey and Minnie, it still feels awkward at best. I don't mind them making some changes. I'm fine if they were looking to drop any romance between them, I'd actually prefer it that way since I don't really like romance, but I think there are better ways they could have done that than this. I'm not going to let it ruin the whole show for me, but I don't think people are wrong to be uncomfortable with it.

 

[Classic Speedy]

Not gonna lie, I'm not crazy about rewriting Buster and Babs so they're twins. I get reboots are when new takes on the characters are done, but the whole joke on the original show was that two characters that happen to have the same last name have to constantly point out that they're not related (akin to two people with "Smith" as their last name). Now that joke's gone.

Although, you know what would be kinda funny, at least just once?
"I'm Buster Bunny."
"And I'm Babs Bunny."
"Relation."

 

[Goldstar!]

I never said I wouldn't watch it, and I wasn't taking into account their popularity with Mickey & Minnie. I was just trying to provide a comparison that I thought you would understand. All I'm saying is that precedent is being messed with in a way that some people might be a bit uncomfortable with. I might get over it (*might*), but I don't know about other people.

I wouldn't really say this is the same as the genderswapping on Jellystone. Despite what some people might think, that wasn't harmful to anyone. Making two characters that previously had romantic moments siblings is a bit different. Even if Buster and Babs aren't as iconic as Mickey and Minnie, it still feels awkward at best. I don't mind them making some changes. I'm fine if they were looking to drop any romance between them, I'd actually prefer it that way since I don't really like romance, but I think there are better ways they could have done that than this. I'm not going to let it ruin the whole show for me, but I don't think people are wrong to be uncomfortable with it.

Fair enough. To be perfectly honest, I don't think that we even need a new Tiny Toons series at all. The TT characters are basically kid versions of the Looney Tunes, and Tiny Toon Adventures came at a time where there was very little new content for the Looney Tunes franchise on TV (Taz-Mania being one notable exception), but now that we seem to be experiencing a LT/MM renaissance of sorts where there are several new LT projects that are either in production or are in the works, there's no real reason to resurrect the Tiny Toons beyond nostalgia and the excuse that " Well, Animaniacs got a new show!" I didn't think that a new A! series was necessary either. A! was fine. TTA was fine, but both shows were products of the 1990s that didn't need to be rebooted. I'd rather Warner Bros. devote its time, money and energy to making new and original shows instead of strip mining the nostalgia of Millennials, but that's just me.

 

[Rhaynebow]

Eh, can’t say I’m for Buster and Babs being twins. Not because I shipped them, but them not being related allows for more fluidity in who they could be in certain segments. It’s kinda like Mickey and Minnie where their relationship status depends on the segment . Sometimes they’re lovers, sometimes they’re friends, sometimes they’ve been together for awhile and sometimes they’re written as having never met. Making them siblings is such a concrete move.

Not like that’s gonna stop the shippers anyway, but best of luck to them. I’m still excited for this show.


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[Zorak Masaki]

I said this on another board, but they should do a sequel to K-Acme TV called K-Acme + that satirizes streaming shows (ie, Stranger Things, Tiger King, Ted Lasso, Squid Game, etc).

 

[Darklordavaitor]

Hey all, I decided to delete or edit some posts because I didn't like where a certain conversation was heading. I won't issue out any infractions, but consider this a final warning- be respectful of others and read the room.

Now please go back to talking about this... admittedly weird dynamic change, or anything else related to the reboot that you're interested in.

 

[PF9]

A huge reason why Elmyra and Max are gone could be that they were uninteresting as they were humans, and the show wanted to focus on the animal characters.

Also, similar to Teen Titans VS. Teen Titans Go, there should eventually be a crossover movie between the the reboot and the original. It would be interesting to see each show's versions of Buster and Babs interact with each other.

 

[EJLD4Ever]

Having Buster and Babs as siblings instead of friends/lovers (they're still very young, do they even need life partners at this point in their lives?) does seem puzzling to me, but I'm not necessarily shocked. After all, this is a re-imagining of the universe, not an actual follow-up to the OG. I'm still waiting a while to see if another crewmember confirms and/or clarifies this. After all, some quotes can be taken way out of context!

About Babs getting a new voice actress--I'm not the least bit surprised. While I will miss her original voice, the original voice cast isn't gonna be around forever, and we've already lost the original Plucky Duck and Hamton J Pig. It's nice to see some new talent in an iconic role.

 

[PF9]

About Babs getting a new voice actress--I'm not the least bit surprised. While I will miss her original voice, the original voice cast isn't gonna be around forever, and we've already lost the original Plucky Duck and Hamton J Pig. It's nice to see some new talent in an iconic role.

Though not all cartoon characters should be recast after their original VA's death. WB has done it for Looney Tunes for so long though, it is acceptable to do it for Tiny Toons as well as it is a part of the franchise.

 

[TnAdct1]

A huge reason why Elmyra and Max are gone could be that they were uninteresting as they were humans, and the show wanted to focus on the animal characters.

That would be a dumb reason, especially considering how two of the better episodes of the original series (Citizen Max, Sepulveda Boulevard) were Montana Max-focused.

 

[Silverstar]

A huge reason why Elmyra and Max are gone could be that they were uninteresting as they were humans, and the show wanted to focus on the animal characters.

Again, only Elmyra has been confirmed to not be in this series. There hasn't been any press or announcement that Montana Max has been dropped. And that's definitely not why Elmyra was removed. If human characters aren't interesting, then how do you explain the many, many, many successful and long running cartoons starring human characters, including the human Looney Tunes characters like Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam and Granny?

One possible reason that keeps coming up is how Elmyra's primary schtick revolves around animal abuse, which could be seen by some as problematic, however, no official reason has been given as of yet.

 

[Dogking3435]

That would be a dumb reason, especially considering how two of the better episodes of the original series (Citizen Max, Sepulveda Boulevard) were Montana Max-focused.

And let’s not forget the Love Disconnection episode: My Dinner with Elmyra.
Besides I don’t think they’re gone because we can see both Monty and Elmyra’s faces in the poster art that artist Len Kiraly(Lee) posted on his Twitter account.

 

[Goldstar!]

And let’s not forget the Love Disconnection episode: My Dinner with Elmyra.
Besides I don’t think they’re gone because we can see both Monty and Elmyra’s faces in the poster art that artist Len Kiraly(Lee) posted on his Twitter account.

Cree Summer stated on Twitter that Elmyra would not be included in Tiny Toons Looniversity, and so far, we've heard no new reports stating otherwise, although she could turn up as an Easter egg.. Likewise, there's been no news stating that Montana Max was excluded, so that character is still likely to return, but probably not voiced by his original voice actor Danny Cooksey.

This probably won't happen, but one thing that I'd like to see would be if this time around Max would no longer be the show's go-to bad guy but were more of a gray or anti-hero, if you will.

A huge reason why Elmyra and Max are gone could be that they were uninteresting as they were humans, and the show wanted to focus on the animal characters.

Literally no one has ever said that.

 

[cristian12345678]