The Butch Hartman Nickelodeon/Nicktoons trio

[dth1971]

Of the 3 Butch Hartman created cartoon series that aired on Nickelodeon/Nicktoons - The Fairly Oddpaperts, Danny Phantom, and T.U.F.F. Puppy - which one do you think is the best?

 

[Russelrules44]

Of the 3 Butch Hartman created cartoon series that aired on Nickelodeon/Nicktoons - The Fairly Oddpaperts, Danny Phantom, and T.U.F.F. Puppy - which one do you think is the best?

I'm going to be the unpopular opinion and say T.U.F.F Puppy, As much as I do like The Fairly Oddparents, they have slipped a little in quality. As for Danny Phanton, I always found it to be a bit overrated. T.U.F.F Puppy was IMO the only show that Butch actually kept control of and didn't make it go out of control.

 

[SaneMan]

I will also go with T.U.F.F. Puppy here, mostly due to consistency

FOP and DP both made huge deal out of world-building and characterization when they started, only to flush it all down the drain as they went on

TP was a slapstick comedy with no semblance of a deeper narrative from start to finish
not to mention they did actually manage to sneak in one or two bits of consistent continuity into it

 

[Getouttamylab!]

Well, I did like the first few seasons of FOPs before the quality tanked with Season 9. I also liked TUFF Puppy, though I eventually became bored with it after a while and moved on to other shows.

To be quite honest, I just couldn't get into DP. It's a good show, but I just never really liked it as much as various other shows.

 

[Rhaynebow]

Now I'll admit that I was just starting to drop Nickelodeon for CN, but I would say Danny Phantom. Here was a show that seemed to be able to balance being an action cartoon with continuity, and still having a standalone-ish format. Despite me missing quite a few episodes, leading me to miss what a lot of you have said was the downfall of DP, I was still able to jump into the show and understand it just fine. Danny slowly got more ghost powers and I don't believe that the show threw in random powers of the day, unlike FOP which seemed to have the fairy council create a new rule every episode and TP having the bad guys get out of jail. At least with the ghosts they have other ghost portals, and then there was Wolf who could literally rip open portals. To see the Box Ghost every now and again was okay because there were explainable methods for him to get out.

In any case, FOP might be seen as the one with respectable longevity and TP with old skool comedy, but I see DP as an action-comedy done pretty dang decent.

 

[Lord Beckett]

It's hard to tell really. Danny Phantom was the most complete feeling cartoon, but once Hartman's help left, the third season was terrible and his work as a cartoonist got even worse since. TUFF Puppy was mediocre when it could've been much more with the universe Ernie Gilbert gifted to him. Fairly Oddparents similarly has gotten worse over the years when Hartman took full control. I suppose I have to say its Fairly Oddparents since it had the most overall work done in it and in the early years including tie-in comics and books, and its pre-Poof movies were some of the best Nickelodeon TV movies ever.

 

[Light Lucario]

I think that I'll go with Danny Phantom. While it had problems with its third season, it was the series that I enjoyed the most out of the three. It had the best premise in my opinion, tried to combine action and comedy with at least some success and it was fun to watch for the most part. Fairy Odd Parents' first few seasons were good/entertaining, but after Channel Chasers, it wasn't that good for me and has become less so as they've been introducing more and more characters to keep it going. I didn't see much of TUFF Puppy, but it didn't do much for me when I did see it.

 

[Dudley]

I agree TUFF Puppy gets points for being consistent in terms of quality, but since it was never that great I put it lose in the list.
Fairly Oddparents was hilarious for the first few seasons, and Danny Phantom was good in the first season, had an alright second season, and a lousy third season.
So I guess Fairly Oddparents wins for me.

 

[Neo Ultra Mike]

This is a bit of a tangent, but even if you didn't know that Butch Hartman and Seth MacFarlane were friends who went to the same college and worked on various cartoons together on Cartoon Network before moving onto their own series, there's an incredible load of similarities in their work. They started off with their most popular cartoon in the late 90's early 2000's which were mostly pure on comedy taking place in worlds where there wasn't any real logic or grand narratives but over time tried to have some bit of depths in there. Both of which were series which after three seasons supposedly ended but due to the popularity of each were brought back for more episodes where many agreed they ran out of steam and jumped the shark several times over and is a wonder why they're still around. In the mid 2000's each had a second series that though had similarities to the first, was also attempting to be a bit more mature and have more a focus on character then on just total goofball humor and are slightly more realistic. Both honestly I feel are incredibly overrated since even if they do have more consistent writing then the original shows aren't nearly as funny and the ideas they used aren't that revolutionary and other cartoons have honestly done them a lot better. And then in the late 2000s/early 2010's they released their likely third and final series they officially were behind creating. This series was more pure on goofiness or the general tone people expected from them and seemed to many to be the biggest waste and most pointless of their works, and had the shortest run time. I always find it ironic that Seth's shows are much more popular then Hartman's though, since regardless of quality, at least Hartman's shows all had unique premises. Seriously Family Guy, American Dad and The Cleveland Show are pretty much "dysfuctional family animated sitcom starring a pretty stupid dad and the much smarter put upon wife, featuring a daughter character the writers cannot make interesting, a teenage son that for some reason becomes the writer's favorite to constantly use over and over, and some sort of talking animal in some form." Fairy Oddparents was about a boy with magical fairies, Danny Phantom is about a teenager given ghost powers who fights various evil spectres, and Tuff Puppy are about antropamoric animal secret agents.

But of these three series is the best Butch Hartman cartoon? That's hard to tell. I think Fairy Oddparents has the overall funniest jokes and moments, but not only has it warn out it's welcome but it's also probably one of the stupidest cartoons ever made. At least in the sense that "everyone of the cast is such an idiot just to get these plots going that couldn't otherwise happen if any character involved had a two digit IQ." Danny Phantom actually tried having character depth and arcs, but sort of failed at that. And as I've mentioned before, for an action comedy it's jokes weren't that great and it's fights were rarely that exiting. As others have mentioned Tuff Puppy has the most consistent tone and isn't trying has hard and kudos for a Hartman cartoon that FINALLY ditches the idea that there's this massive secret the cast has to hide from other members of the cast, but the jokes and payoffs aren't really that amusing and honestly it also has the most stock and tired plot, as it's set up doesn't have the potential for interest like the other Hartman shows. So honestly all three of these series have rather massive failures. So it really is sort of hard to know which one to pick. Hmmmm, honestly though it probably annoys me the most overall, the best probably is Fairly Oddparents since it at least has the greatest collection of jokes and good rewatchable episodes then it's contemporaries. It at least deserves more of it's "hype" then Danny Phantom and has better comedic pacing then Tuff Puppy. It's not great... certainly not now but of the three it does fare the best.

 

[ShadowBeast]

Since it lasted 4-5 seasons before going downhill, I'm choosing FOP.
Tuff Puppy had potential but it started going downhill in the middle of the first season, and like FOP's later seasons some characters started disappearing and Butcher kept focusing on his dumbest characters and abusing the smarter ones.

 

[SweetShop209]

I'm not sure. The Fairly OddParents was great before Poof, but greatly slipped in quality after that. Danny Phantom had a rushed third season, but had 2 good seasons and some semblance of closure. TUFF Puppy was consistent, but it's not almost entirely entertaining. I'd say Danny Phantom wins this one. The first 2 seasons were great, while the 3rd season was okay. There was at least some closure. I haven't seen too much of TUFF Puppy to form a full opinion on it and The Fairly OddParents slipped down the slippery slope of quality for quite some time.

 

[Toonatic]

Much as I do love Fairly OddParents, I gotta go with TUFF Puppy. Show's gotta a lot of action, a lot of comedy, and a lot of heart.

 

[Zanneck]

Is there an option for "I hate all of these shows equally.".....? I'm sorry - but compared to other shows out there (some my examples disliked/hated in comparison to these 3 shows), I've seen far better in terms of characters, writing, story, action, and/or comedy, than all 3 of these combined, especially FOP!

The only time I'm showing interest in these shows is when fan-art exposure is being made of these shows. Nothing else, TBH.

 

[kanc]

I vote for Danny Phantom! He is much better than FOP and TUFF Puppy.

 

[Mr. Daniel]

Fairy odd Parents has been milked to death. T.U.F.F. Puppy was lame. So I guess Danny Phantom wins by default. Still a good show though.

 

[kanc]

Fairy odd Parents has been milked to death. T.U.F.F. Puppy was lame. So I guess Danny Phantom wins by default. Still a good show though.

Fairly OddParents is no longer airing on main Nickelodeon anymore, only on Nicktoons. But I can agree with Danny Phantom though.

 

[jaylop97]

Danny phantom stayed overall better than TP and FOP, and it had more to offer for most fans, TP wasn't that bad, and FOP started okay but the after Poof was born the show focused way less on Timmy and more on Crocker and Mr.Turner which made me lose interest in FOP.

 

[kanc]

I haven't explained myself well from the start. OK here goes: Fairly OddParents were doing well from the course and Nick treats well in history until 2015. But that's when it all went downhill with the ratings overall especially season 9. It gotten worse when season 9 has been blasted to premieres in July 2014/Aug 2014. The two last episodes of season 9 aired on KCA 2015 mornings. In 2012 Fairly OddParents have been rerunning to death and suddenly stopped in Aug 2015 when Alvin and Chipmunks took over airing much replacing Fairly OddParents shrine. But as of Aug 18, 2015 Nick had renewed for season 10 and gets a new character Chloe, which will have 13 episodes. Sparky is no longer seen nor mentioned, which is pathetically sad. Overall, I stopped caring new Fairly OddParents since there isn't any storyline, or taken funny to new level. Some middle of later season 9 episodes Poof and Sparky had been absent though. Overall I prefer earlier Fairly OddParents instead of new version Fairly OddParents. Even after the announcement for season 10 has been made, there were no longer shown on Nickelodeon network though for reruns, not even returning for Halloween episodes.

TUFF Puppy is ok. I liked how Jerry Trainor voices TUFF. Nick treats it well, but as of fall 2012, with ratings were down some TUFF Puppy episodes had been pulled from later fall schedule and were supposed to place in spring 2013 airing but have been pulled. Season 3 was the last season, and Nick never treats well with promotions.

Danny Phantom is better. Nick treats promotion well. I don't know if I can remember how Nick treats with DP in 2007 when it came close to series finale.. Yep my favorite I would choose is Danny Phantom

 

[Lord Hater]

Danny Phantom is my favorite even though I haven't seen much of it. T.U.F.F. Puppy was too wacky for me from the start and FOP was from season 9. I'm so happy that reruns are only shown on Nicktoons.

 

[Edward15]

This trio is going to become a quartet. 'Bunsen Is A Beast' is on the way!