Do you think life is a constant battle between good and evil?

[Kury Wagner]

Sieg heil?

Well, Hitler did annihilate 6 million people............I'd say that's the work of a very messed up, crooked-minded genius.

Actually, that's six million Jews. The full count is over eleven million deaths. And yeah, that's my point: he pulled off such amazing feats. Again, I'm not saying "Woo, go murder!", but the man was astounding. You have to admit that.

You sir

Wow. Been awhile since KurtWagner Syndrome was in effect.

 

[James]

I agree with Kury. "Evil" is a simplistic and stupid concept made to easily define actions one does not want to understand, empathise or have to justify. If you look at any action closely, it's far more complex that it initially seems. That makes a black and white situation grey, and grey is far harder to to control than black and white. I believe in "right and wrong" based on what the society demands in order to exist in a production and harmonious way, but not "Good and Evil" as some sort of authoritarian overall absolute.

Now I'm not saying "evil" was made by those who have ruled through history, though it's been damn useful. We all want answers. We all need validation. Since we were kids we wanted to know we were doing right by what ever scheme of parenting we had. We like to know our way is correct and the "other" way is wrong. And so thereby we as people LIKE "good" and "evil" as it validates our actions over others who have counter actions.

But in the end, there is no such absolutes. Everything is connected and beyond social human law, the world is unforgiving in it's outcomes. "Good" and "Evil" merely extend from social perameters that suit the society they exist in. There is no absolutes. It's evil to murder a man, but it's just for societies soldier to do so in the name of the society. It's obvious and rather done example, but there only absolutes in good and evil are transitory ones. The only general consistency in these "absolutes" is that one benefits the social group who believes in them and the other does not. Beyond that, the scales shift depending on where you go.

It's all about human need to validate actions and through that need, "good and evil" has kept the society status quo in check.

I don't think that was happening at the dawn of time, but I could be wrong.

 

[ultranet]

simply, there is dark and there is bright.....no one can exists without another....
so could be there is a fight between God and evil.... where i think is they are just opposite to eachother and there is no winner in this battle, ever

 

[EinBebop]

I agree with Kury. "Evil" is a simplistic and stupid concept made to easily define actions one does not want to understand, empathise or have to justify.

I just got off the phone with Stephen Colbert. He said to tell you you're on notice.

 

[James]

I just got off the phone with Stephen Colbert. He said to tell you you're on notice.

Given our apparent likeness, I look forward to the devout Catholic Mr Colbert having to place his own face up "on notice". Can't get closer to the truthiness than that.

 

[sun]

Define your terms.

I guess I would have to "define", good and evil. This isn't as easy as it seems.
For example, war might be defined as evil, but the outcome of WWII was a "necessary evil."
..While Hitler might be considered a "genius" I would probably say, an "evil" genius, due to the outcome of his decisions..Some have estimated that the war he started cost over 50 million lives..So is it evil to start such a war?
..Or as James says, within the context of society..Stopping the war, and the war itself, was not evil..
..For me, there are certain absolutes. 1)killing for killing sake, not to defend one'self
.................................................. 2) rape
...................................................3) child abuse..
There are many more..This arguement is very old. I know this..I once did a reaserch project that states that there has been a major war every three years since before Christ was born...that is a long time, and a lot of war, ??
evil..I would say so............................................................Stuart

 

[Frank Castle]

I think there is good and evil. My simple definition is good is awesome and evil sucks monkey nuts. Doesn't get more basic than that.

 

[EzraBladerunner]

I agree with tucsoncoyote and Kury Wagner actually.

I believe that there's both good and evil in this world and that everyone is capable of it. It's not all black and white like in a fairytale or one of those old western movies with the white cowboy hats and black cowboy hats.

Also, there has to be a balance of good and evil. Can't have one without the other. There will always be a shadow in the light and a light in the shadow.

 

[TheMecca]

A STORY is a battle between good and evil.
The world is made up of stories.
I have no way to conclude this post.

 

[Kaoru]

Good and evil are just English words which have derived as concepts from counterparts in some other languages, made to distinguish between orthodox and unorthodox or conformist and non-conformist behaviour/acts. They do not exist in practice as set concepts because those standards vary greatly worldwide and there are no universal 'good' and 'evil'. I am pro calling rapists, murderers of innocent etc. evil because we see it as unacceptale for a happy society (whilst by evil meaning unacceptable).

I don't believe however that an action can be classified evil if it only has an effect on the perpetrator because when it doesn't affect others it's acceptable, as the perpetrator is the victim and hence makes 100% of the society at that point (with acts such as masturbation etc.). That part is just my view.

 

[Kury Wagner]

oh, I hope I don't get killed.

I agree with Kury.

Really?! Wow! I knew there was a reason I liked you! Other than your fabulous personality and stunning good looks, of course.

war might be defined as evil

Might be, but the thing is, war is conflict created to get... something or get somewhere. It's the result of opposing opinions. That in itself doesn't make it "evil". The force used, the result of using force, *that* is what could be construed as "evil". Many argue that it's the violence of war that needs to be eliminated, but it's the want of power that starts the violence and creates a war. So again, it comes down to something far more complex. Nothing is Black or White, nothing is Good or Evil.

To answer the intial question again, Life is a constant battle of Life.

 

[Gatomon41]

The Battle between Good and Evil is essstienally a battle already predetermined. Good is superior to all that is evil, and in the end evil will lose. The real battle is wither or not people can stop and recongize evil, or if they're willing to.

 

[Gatomon41]

To further elaborate...

By Good and Evil, I do not refer to a cultural diffention, espiecally the "modern" ideas concerning the matter that is really no more than pop philopshy. I rather refer to Good and Evil in the sense of objective Morality.

Good is not mere actions that result in a wanted outcome. The postive effects are usally the result of Good actions. However, some people may not understand to see the positive action, and believe it is a negative action. Regardless of what an indivdual thinks, Moral Law is objective. What is good and evil is not determined by indivduals, cultures, nor governments. It is already determined and abosultue, with postive diffentions of what is right and what is wrong.

Also, good and evil are not equal. Evil is a corruption and a parody, and seeks to destroy and harm. It can never be as strong as good in the long run.

The battle of Good and Evil can take place anywhere in history. Sometimes it is a literal battle between good and evil (though most wars and battles are rarely fought in such a way.) It should also be noted that any human war, each side will have good and evil. The real battle is between those who are good fighting evil, regardless of nationality.

Often, the conflict is also bloodless. Rather, the human soul (or mind, if you so decide) is at risk. For humans, the real battle is within ourselves and what we decide and what actions we take.

 

[purplehairedwonder]

I rather refer to Good and Evil in the sense of objective Morality.

Objective reality is another debate entirely. Can you prove morality is objective? I'm inclined to believe it is subjective to some degree. With a subjective morality, "good" and "evil" are also subjective. They depend on a person's point of view. They are just labels people use to make them feel better about themselves.

 

[Gatomon41]

Objective reality is another debate entirely. Can you prove morality is objective? I'm inclined to believe it is subjective to some degree. With a subjective morality, "good" and "evil" are also subjective. They depend on a person's point of view. They are just labels people use to make them feel better about themselves.

Indeed it is another debate entirely, but another thread, another time.

 

[purplehairedwonder]

Indeed it is another debate entirely, but another thread, another time.

And considering how much fun we're having with all the debates we have right now... perhaps not for awhile or we might have too much fun