CN Schedule Updates

[jaylop97]

Looks like CN will be celebrating Christmas on December 23 instead.

I got to admit I kind of like their small inbetween breaks of Christmas special and depending on the show just a normal episode of said show.

 

[RandomMe]

Celebrating Christmas on December 23 instead of the 24th or 25th?

This reminds me of how some kids channels here celebrate Halloween on November 1st.

 

[Toon4Thought]

Celebrating Christmas on December 23 instead of the 24th or 25th?

This reminds me of how some kids channels here celebrate Halloween on November 1st.

To be fair, the people who are going to watch TV on those two days will likely watch a different network altogether running some Christmas movie.

 

[AmazingGumball]

People still get heated over these marathons? Come on now, this was expected. Want some variety, go to the app already.

poeple shouldnt have to go to the appl when they like cartoon network. CN needs to learn to actually be competent and stop the lousy marathons

 

[AmazingGumball]

I'm legit sick of hearing about this app. Tell me once again how does that help them understand what they're doing wrong? Oh wait! It doesn't. I don't know if it is a generational thing but the millennial in me just can't accept everything cartoon network chunks out and be ok with it.

thank you. me neither

 

[AmazingGumball]

I don’t think the point was to teach CN what they’re doing wrong, but to watch shows they don’t air on there instead. I could see it if they were screwing over shows like Nick does, but they don’t seem to be.

The app is still a huge problem as it kills TV ratings for when the show actually does air on cable. Execs seem to care more about a lousy app instead of fixing their own main channel and air shows that people actually want to see. Everyone at this point is sick of TTG. And CN for the past year has done nothing BUT screw over their own original programming, they screwed over Regular show's final season and finale, Adevnture Time's Season 8-10 and put no effort in advertising any of them. Nick on the other hand is actually making an effort to improve as shown with the splat block and the loud house. while they do have issues they could solve such as harvey beaks they're still for the most part improving more than CN is.

If you don’t have cable, then you don’t have access to the live feed either.

the thing is though CN needs to realize not everyone has access to internet

 

[AmazingGumball]

It's the only alternative than facing the schedule that clearly isn't going to improve anytime soon.

that doesnt mean we cant do anything about. CN needs to realize that what they're doing is wrong

 

[AmazingGumball]

And, most importantly, it's much better for your well-being than just endlessly ranting at a wall. A wall that has a door in the corner.

yeah right. more like a door in the corner that leads to a compressed boiler room thats only 5 cubic feet because that is what precisely describes the app. This is about the principle of it all. People who enjoy using the TV shouldnt have to suffer constantly with CN's incompetent scheduling(especially when not everyone can access streaming) when they've always shown to have had variety especially in 2010-2014 in christmas. So expecting people to "get over it" is a pretty pathetic excuse to justify and warrant the terrible scheduling. The execs need to get it through their thick skulls that nobody wants another pointless marathon to ruin their classic christmas specials. People arent hating on CN because its the "cool" thing to do or for the sake of it, its because there are legit problems that CN hasnt addressed and has shown no intention of fixing them. Poeple dont want to see the network fail, they want it to improve and that includes its scheduling because many people grew up with CNand im sure countless people have already given suggestions on how to give variety to the network and make it better but CN in no way wants to listen to fans so dont try to lump in criticism with "ranting at a wall" when CN isnt even doing anything to open up the floodgates to criticism. If you want my suggestion is that a COMPETENT network would be smart enough to properly utilize both streaming and cable. Nick for example isnt constantly shoving the app down everyone's throats and Disney seems to properly understand to balance both cable and streaming and they arent trying to constantly push the NOW app

 

[AmazingGumball]

Am I surprised they're going to spam TTG! during Christmas? Not really. Maybe just a bit considering they already spammed the show heavily several times this year and it seemed they had enough.

Am I disappointed? Absolutely. One, as I mentioned, there have been more than enough Teen Titans Go! marathons this year. If I'm counting correctly, the show overtook the network at least 3-5x times. Airing repeatedly every single episode you have for basically the fifth time in a row, regardless of popularity, is at the very least a sign of no creative effort and poor taste. Screw the Turner/WB vault, that has more content than one can possibly handle, at this point. Nobody is expecting miracles. But, and that brings me to point number two, it's Christmas for crying out loud - probably the most important and saint holiday of the year. Out of principle it should be treated with respect - meaning keeping with tradition and spirit. This? 200+ episodes of one mediocre show? Literally a joke if not outright an insult. You just don't do that. And I'm having a hard time recalling who else in their right mind in television history ever has to such extent.

Sure, maybe I'm jumping the gun and there will be some other shows and classics aired throughout and maybe they will use it also to promote Unikitty. I don't know and we'll see. But regardless, that doesn't change much. The issue is they even attemped to do this in the first place. Out of pure greed and laziness. It was hard enough to stomach the marathons in previous months, but looking back they were in comparison somewhat tolerable and in a way meaningful. This however is not and just crosses the line. It is wrong on many levels and the app won't save it. Even Nick knows better than to just spam SpongeBob and that says a lot. Yet here we are with Teen Titans Go!, a SpongeBob wannabe, doing exactly that countless times over because it apparently has nothing else to offer.

When the movie comes out next year and when the show will be ending prepare for 1 month of nothing but Teen Titans Go!. I'm serious. Only that way, if they actually air also something else, your expectations will be low and you'll be pleased.

you hit the nail on the head buddy

 

[AmazingGumball]

First of all, this isn't quite Christmas-ruining territory. It would need to leave an actual real-life impact to go that far.

first off it most definitely is christmas ruining territory. Countless people have actually been looking forward to watching christmas specials in which it was always a CN tradition. just because it doesnt actively give you physical harm in real life doesnt make it any less troublesome or disheartening.

But beyond that, I get the feeling that they are aware they'd lose the trust of the kids if they did air the show more than a week. They're obviously gone beyond their limits with many older fans, but their target audience - specifically those who watch TTG - are definitely the ones who matter the most to the live feed. They can get away with 4-day marathons, since those are usually done at times when they'd be up to something else anyway (Christmas being one of those). But more than a week in the middle of the summer will definitely be long enough for them to catch on and get beyond tired of what they saw.

And yes, I am aware about OK KO's premiere week (probably the single worst case of this), but as ridiculous as it was, that at the very least had the distinction of constantly throwing material new to that week (a good 2 1/2 hours worth between NBTS and OK KO). The TTG movie is only 70 minutes.

if they were never aware of the amount of backlash the show has gotten yet still keeps pushing the show like royalty, how disappointing their 25th anniversary was the fact that kids and older audiences are already sick of the show, the amount of people that despised the entire week of TTG on the same week as OK KO's premiere then there's no way they would figure out how they've been past their limit. There's never been any indication from any of the staff that they know how much people hate the show or are sick of the marathons and havent done anything to fix this. They already know very well that kids will watch whatever is thrown to them on screen so they assume they can get away with showing as much marathons as possible but that isnt the case as many older viewers are turned away meaning less ratings. And no, the kids arent the only target audience that matters, the older audience is just as important since the ones who grew up with the network were what made CN successful to begin with so for them to lose trust from the older audience is already hurting their brand and CN doesnt realize it and kids at this point barely watch the show now but CN still seems to not take that into account . OK KO's ratings for example have suffered because of the infamous week long TTG marathon eclipsing the premiere and later on in its run as it now barely has episodes that can go over a million viewers thanks to CN shifting its attention from that show to more TTG. You cant honestly try to see a reason why they WOULDNT do a week long marathon when they've already shown they're not above oversaturating TTG for every holiday so having a week long premiere for the movie wont be any suprise whatsoever. If they havent caught on now, there's definitely no doubt that they'll do it again unless enough people can notify CN these constant marathons are asinine

 

[PinkieLopBun]

The app is still a huge problem as it kills TV ratings for when the show actually does air on cable.

CN isn’t as focused on linear ratings as they used to be.
http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/bringing-cartoons-to-tv-and-everywhere

 

[AmazingGumball]

CN isn’t as focused on linear ratings as they used to be.
http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/bringing-cartoons-to-tv-and-everywhere

they really have themselves to blame for that as they pretty much dont put much effort in airing more quality programming

 

[SuperFan2024]

@AmazingGumball what's good with you? Stop spamming posts.

And second, in an interview, a worker at CN stated that he knows that the CN schedule doesn't have too much variety, and knows that TV ratings are going down. With this, he also said that the CN team was working more on the apps and SVOD services, because they know that kids use these apps and SVOD services more often than before. People are watching live TV less and less as the days and weeks pass, and we're all just gonna have to realize that CN's focus is more on it's SVOD services in contrast towards it's live feed.

Netflix, Hulu, etc are huge hits nationwide, and worldwide, so of course networks like CN would try to replicate this success given the decline in live viewers. There's nothing we can do about it. CN may be "destroying" it's live feed, but at the same time they're upgrading their app and On Demand feeds/services. With a con, we still somewhat have a pro. And I know that CN isn't done yet with this whole new SVOD shtick, so we must be patient for the time being. Just look at the Boomerang channel. The channel is almost at it's last legs, but an app was already released which features a ton of content (new and old) for viewers to enjoy.

 

[AmazingGumball]

@AmazingGumball what's good with you? Stop spamming posts.

And second, in an interview, a worker at CN knows that they're schedule isn't that good, and knows that TV ratings are going down. With this, he said that the CN team was working more on the apps and SVOD services, because they know that kids use these apps and SVOD services more and more. People are watching live TV less and less as the days and weeks pass, and we're all just gonna have to realize that CN's focus is more on it's SVOD services in contrast towards it's live feed.

Netflix, Hulu, etc are huge hits nationwide, and worldwide, so of course networks like CN would try to replicate this success given the decline in live viewers. There's nothing we can do about it.

Forgive the multiple posts but they pretty much have themselves to blame for the decline in ratings as they dont make an effort to improve their scheduling. And i dont buy the cord cutting excuse as Nick is doing very well in TV ratings. Yes TV is declining but to say there's no hope is pretty ridiculous. CN is only making things worse for themselves with the lack of variety they haveThe Loud house, Rick and Morty, Samurai Jack and Spongebob have proven to not only to have massive TV ratings but that if you actually watch quality content, people will watch your channel so all in all i do think TV can still draw an audience. CN really has no excuse for the sad state they're in.

 

[SuperFan2024]

Forgive the multiple posts but they pretty much have themselves to blame for the decline in ratings as they dont make an effort to improve their scheduling. And i dont buy the cord cutting excuse as Nick is doing very well in TV ratings. Yes TV is declining but to say there's no hope is pretty ridiculous. CN is only making things worse for themselves with the lack of variety they haveThe Loud house, Rick and Morty, Samurai Jack and Spongebob have proven to not only to have massive TV ratings but that if you actually watch quality content, people will watch your channel so all in all i do think TV can still draw an audience. CN really has no excuse for the sad state they're in.

Yes, there are still quality programs out there in the entertainment business, but the statistics show that linear live TV viewing has taken an immense drop compared to let's say a decade ago. Nick, CN, Disney etc still have good ratings from time to time, but they are ordinarily only a fraction of what the programs used to get. The age of linear live TV is coming to an end. Everything comes to an end one day. Like I said previously, these networks still have a backup for this decline in ratings, and that backup is streaming/SVOD which they're already working on as we speak. CN obviously knows that their schedule is pretty crap, but they're doing this for a reason. If less and less people are watching TV, what's the point of getting even less profits by airing programs that don't get high enough ratings? (I.e. Steven Universe reruns. The SU premieres do fantastic, but the reruns do not do good). This is the reason why they are spamming TTG! majority of the time with not enough variety in the schedule. TTG! gets incredible ratings, and the series obviously brings CN good ratings. I hope you can understand what i'm trying to tell you. At this point, networks are in a desperate state for the most amount of profit that they can achieve given the decreasing viewers, so, having less variety while still airing their highest rated show will stabilize the network's profits and ratings for the time being.

 

[ShadowBeast]

CN isn’t as focused on linear ratings as they used to be.
http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/bringing-cartoons-to-tv-and-everywhere

Then why constantly spam the channel with TTG then? Sounds like the TTG-spamming is more about laziness than TTG being popular. If the ratings don't matter, then why not just add variety to the schedule.

 

[Gatordragon]

Then why constantly spam the channel with TTG then? Sounds like the TTG-spamming is more about laziness than TTG being popular. If the ratings don't matter, then why not just add variety to the schedule.

Well if the ratings don't matter, then what's the point of adding variety to the schedule, then? The variety won't help if the ratings don't matter as much as they used to. I'm not saying that I like the current schedule, I just think that your argument works both ways.

 

[Toon4Thought]

first off it most definitely is christmas ruining territory. Countless people have actually been looking forward to watching christmas specials in which it was always a CN tradition. just because it doesnt actively give you physical harm in real life doesnt make it any less troublesome or disheartening.

You know what 1000x even more people have been actively looking forward to do on Christmas? Exchanging gifts and hanging out with families and loved ones.

Freaking holiday schedules are a small blip on the radar at best. Even the worst schedule on the planet wouldn't come close to ruining the holiday.


As for the two most recent posts, I'm pretty much a middle ground between both stances:

Then why constantly spam the channel with TTG then? Sounds like the TTG-spamming is more about laziness than TTG being popular. If the ratings don't matter, then why not just add variety to the schedule.

I think what's happening is they are constantly airing TTG specifically because it generally gets the highest returns per showing in the live feed specifically. I perfectly get what you mean when you say they might as well add variety specifically because the money would remain small, and I even agree with it to an extent, but I think they're trying to get as much out of it as they can.

I'm not saying that this is what they should be doing, but it's the best guess to their mindset I could muster.

As for the laziness thing... well, let's be real, when the live feed doesn't get a very high profit, you wouldn't want to put a lot of your resources and effort into it either.

Well if the ratings don't matter, then what's the point of adding variety to the schedule, then? The variety won't help if the ratings don't matter as much as they used to. I'm not saying that I like the current schedule, I just think that your argument works both ways.

I more lean towards your point, but I would also argue that adding some other shows can and has worked out in recent past (look at the recent Teen Titans repeats). Risk-taking can result in some especially high returns.

But again, it's a matter of prioritizing the resources you have and deciding what makes the most sense from a business standpoint, even if some things have to be sacrificed.

 

[ShadowBeast]

Well if the ratings don't matter, then what's the point of adding variety to the schedule, then? The variety won't help if the ratings don't matter as much as they used to. I'm not saying that I like the current schedule, I just think that your argument works both ways.

So it's pretty much a "screw you" to those who enjoy watching their shows on the live-feed rather than online. Kind of shows how much they appreciate their viewers. But then again, this is the same company that lies about watching their shows online without the need to sign-up.

As for the laziness thing... well, let's be real, when the live feed doesn't get a very high profit, you wouldn't want to put a lot of your resources and effort into it either.

They could still add variety and advertise to watch more episodes of those shows online.

 

[Toon4Thought]

So it's pretty much a "screw you" to those who enjoy watching their shows on the live-feed rather than online. Kind of shows how much they appreciate their viewers. But then again, this is the same company that lies about watching their shows online without the need to sign-up.

It's not so much a "screw you" as it is them focusing on their target audience above all else and getting the most they can out of what is essentially a dying resource. It's not like they are really THAT much worse in the over-saturation than the majority of other cable channels anyway.

And could you elaborate on the lying thing? Because from what I know, they at most fail to specifically highlight it, which definitely isn't lying. And the unlocked weekends certainly don't require a sign-in.

They could still add variety and advertise to watch more episodes of those shows online.

To a small extent, they kind of do that with many of the other shows that do get aired. I know it's not quite the extent you had in mind (which I also think would be preferable), but it's still something.