Clarence creator fired for alleged sexual harassment

[Dub C]

People should let the investigation take its course. The problem with taking things like this public is that the accused is deemed guilty before all else. I know most women who step forward about this sort of stuff are telling the truth, but there have been times in the past - and will be going forward - that people lie or speak half-truths about these sorts of things. What I fear is that now, due to external pressure, Cartoon Network will feel compelled to take action even if their investigation comes up empty.

Indeed. More and more stories lately have been popping up about athletes who have had their careers ruined and even spent time in jail for false allegations from "so-called" female victims. I'll be in the group of just letting it play out. But also put me in the group of, why did this not stay behind closed doors and settled like adults instead of running to social media?

 

[Looney Tunes Fan]

I will only say this: Clarence is screwed.

With this much attention being brought against the creator of the show, I don't think CN would want to continue the show. Oh well, they still have Steven Universe and Uncle Grandpa to fall back on if Clarence gets screwed.

EDIT: I should also mention that if this truly did happen, this is just sad. I wish the best for Emily Partridge.

 

[veemonjosh]

Yeah.. this man needs to be fired - show canceled being a consequence be ignored.

So we should just ignore the dozens of innocent hard-working people who are going to lose their jobs over this?

 

[SaneMan]

These are indeed some serious allegations.
However, I will stick to "innocent until proven guilty" until the results of an actual investigation start showing.
In general however, I prefer to draw a thick line between someone's work and their personal life, and so should everyone else.

 

[Gatordragon]

When I first heard about this, I was confused and surprised, but I wanted to know the full story before giving my opinion. Like Huntsman said, I'm going to wait and see how the investigation plays out first. Hopefully, this does not harm Clarence's future, especially considering Skyler Page also voices the title character.

I think the reason why Emily Partridge put this on social media instead of quietly settling it in court is to tarnish Skyler Page's reputation. If there's one thing I know about social media users, it's that they tend to jump to conclusions and not ask questions.

 

[Golden Geek]

Well, considering the women denied giving any kind of proof other then "YES THIS TOTALLY HAPPENED" and anyone who dares ask for proof on Twitter is yelled at by feminists, there is really nothing we can do unless some proof comes out.

The Adventure Time wiki says he's already been fired though, which I don't want to believe.

 

[SaneMan]

Who knows if this whole thing isn't just some sort of industrial rivalry.

 

[tjh]

I could see Clarence getting another small order without Page as showrunner using storyboards already made, but I no longer believe there's any possibility that it will become as big of a success as it had to potential to be. Clarence is going to have a pretty ferverent cult following eventually, and if Page is mentally ill, as has been stated by some of the tweeters, it might even have an 'outsider art' thing going for it.

 

[macattack]

To be completely honest, this should have stayed behind closed doors and handled in private. You don't leak this out into Twitter and the blogoverse. Because even if the allegations prove to be false, Skyler Page's career just got ruined (and if it's proven to be false, Emily Partridge just wrecked her career too)

Look at the rumors over Bryan Singer on the X-Men franchise. Even though it's looking increasingly likely he's innocent of the accusations against him, the bad press is enough that FOX is reportedly considering tossing Singer out of the franchise anyway.

Even if this turns out to be absolutely nothing, Page's career may effectively be over anyway. Of course, if it turns out to be something, Page needs to go, but I'd rather not the dozens upon dozens of people who make Clarence happen pay the price for it. Just continue the show without him.

 

[Nexonius]

For a lot of cases of being assaulted, it's hard for anyone to even bring something like this up, especially if it's the victim him/herself. If it's a lie, then it's a horrible thing to do, but it's hard to call this false when more than enough people are confirming the incident.

 

[GWOtaku]

I'm not sure some of you understand: Nobody knows the situation on the inside except the people who are there but the hard reality is you have multiple people backing this, including Regular Show's Ryan Pequin and Steven Universe's Lamar Abrams. In my opinion this tweet from Partridge implies that Pen Ward is in her corner (@buenothebear is his twitter handle). That the behavior is apparently something being addressed just caps off the point that this isn't something that can be brushed off.

Partridge was not the first to talk about this by the way. Others knew her story and called out Page first, and she opted to collaborate that publicly.

 

[SaneMan]

I do wonder who could profit off of the cancellation of Clarence and the removing of Skyler Page from the picture.
Mind you, it is still possible he is guilty, but if he's innocent, I do wonder who would have the most to gain from it.
I mean, Clarence is a pretty successful show that currently holds a strong time-slot on the network.
By getting the show canceled, and making sure it's creator will never get to work again, a vacuum would be created that someone else could fill.
But who?

The Brian Singer accusations could very well be the works of rival studios, especially considering his high success with the X-Men franchise.
Seeing how everything is pointing towards him being innocent, my top suspect would be the Disney Marvel studios, who have shown strong interest in the copyrights to the Marvel franchises over at Fox and Sony, and as such their series being successful is the last thing they would want (and thus removing the source of their success is an obvious choice)
Warner Bros. is also a possible success, due to the difficulties they are having with making good use of their DC properties, and thus they rosolve to sabotaging the competition.

Sorry for the conspiracy theories, but I'm just thinking out loud.
And really, allot of nasty tricks are being pulled in the entertainment industry.

 

[NovelleX]

For a lot of cases of being assaulted, it's hard for anyone to even bring something like this up, especially if it's the victim him/herself. If it's a lie, then it's a horrible thing to do, but it's hard to call this false when more than enough people are confirming the incident.

It's not so much "he did this/he didn't do this" than it is "this was handled horribly and now the media is erupting because of it".

 

[King_of_doom]

To be completely honest, this should have stayed behind closed doors and handled in private. You don't leak this out into Twitter and the blogoverse. Because even if the allegations prove to be false, Skyler Page's career just got ruined (and if it's proven to be false, Emily Partridge just wrecked her career too)

Look at the rumors over Bryan Singer on the X-Men franchise. Even though it's looking increasingly likely he's innocent of the accusations against him, the bad press is enough that FOX is reportedly considering tossing Singer out of the franchise anyway.

Even if this turns out to be absolutely nothing, Page's career may effectively be over anyway. Of course, if it turns out to be something, Page needs to go, but I'd rather not the dozens upon dozens of people who make Clarence happen pay the price for it. Just continue the show without him.

On Bryan Singer it does show that he's still 100% involved with the franchise.

On Topic, again as previously mention "Spencer Rothbell" should be in charge of Clarence because what blame the guys behind the show have on what Page did. The show should continue just without Page and we know that Page voices Clarence but i know they can get someone to replace him, i mean his voice it's not that hard to mimic.

Partridge was not the first to talk about this by the way. Others knew her story and called out Page first, and she opted to collaborate that publicly.

Still would have been smarter that she and the others that know Page would do such a thing go to the police and make a report, not go to public what happen to you on twitter so people be the executioners. If it's all proven and Page get arrested you have all the right to post on what happen.

 

[Soul]

I'm not sure some of you understand: Nobody knows the situation on the inside except the people who are there but the hard reality is you have multiple people backing this, including Regular Show's Ryan Pequin and Steven Universe's Lamar Abrams. In my opinion this tweet from Partridge implies that Pen Ward is in her corner (@buenothebear is his twitter handle). That the behavior is apparently something being addressed just caps off the point that this isn't something that can be brushed off.

Partridge was not the first to talk about this by the way. Others knew her story and called out Page first, and she opted to collaborate that publicly.

Yeah, you can't legitimately spin this one way or the other just yet.

I think in the defense for this actually coming out on social media is the point that, yeah, this is one of the first times something like this has happened in the animation community, THAT WE KNOW OF.

It could have very well been swept under the rug, resulting in the misogyny that we'd expect. And for a further rimshot, it'd only result in me questioning Cartoon Network's anti-female agenda.

So, good or bad, for Skyler or Emily, this arguably needed to publicly come out. And I'm the first one to tell you how unfortunate this is for Clarence since Skyler is it's creator. But at that, how much of It's brilliance and creativity solely comes from him is up for debate.

 

[Surreal Kangaroo]

Well now it looks like I need to give Clarence a shot before it goes bye-bye.

 

[GWOtaku]

Still would have been smarter that she and the others that know Page would do such a thing go to the police and make a report, not go to public what happen to you on twitter so people be the executioners. If it's all proven and Page get arrested you have all the right to post on what happen.

I'd point out that neither you nor others who've expressed this sentiment know the details of the situation or how it is being dealt with or will be dealt with. There is not some either / or choice between making a report and saying something.

The reasoning is that in the interim, people (and other women, specifically) should have awareness so similar abuses cannot happen, and also that putting it out there sets a clear and loud standard for accountability and for this sort of behavior being 100% UNACCEPTABLE in the workplace, which it obviously is. Nobody's discontents with social media are sufficient to delegitimize these notions.

It could have very well been swept under the rug, resulting in the misogyny that we'd expect. And for a further rimshot, it'd only result in me questioning Cartoon Network's anti-female agenda.

Their what, now?

 

[IcyTea]

I'd point out that neither you nor others who've expressed this sentiment know the details of the situation or how it is being dealt with or will be dealt with. There is not some either / or choice between making a report and saying something.

The reasoning is that in the interm, people (and other women, specifically) should have awareness so similar abuses cannot happen, and also that putting it out there sets a clear and loud standard for accountability and for this sort of behavior being 100% UNACCEPTABLE in the workplace, which it obviously is. Nobody's discontents with social media are sufficient to delegitimize these notions.

Agreed, I hope Cartoon Network HR has a meeting with ANYONE involved with this.

 

[Eldorado]

I guess there's so many tv series nowadays that sooner or later one of the creators had to be...I can't think of a word but it involves being a criminal or a pervert or something.

 

[Checkerboard]

I told you Clarence was Adult Swim material LOL!

Seriously though, sad.