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    Is it safe to say that the pandemic really made the American entertainment industry hit rock bottom?

    But as history shows we can evolve and recover from all the nastiness in the world. It’s just I’m afraid it probably won’t recover until mid 2025 if we’re lucky
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    Mostezli
    Mostezli
    The immediate recovery made the entertainment hit rock bottom. The pandemic was supposed to usher in a boon for toon since they paused everything else, but now it's just one bad headline after the other shrinking this market because of how bad "everything else" was during and even some after the pandemic.
    TheMisterManGuy
    TheMisterManGuy
    It's a combination of Inflation, economy, overspending on streaming, and others that is causing a lot of problems right now.
    Ace
    Ace
    I think streaming did that years before the pandemic and a variety of other factors. Also having to compete with gaming and social media as a source of entertainment.
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    Did something happen in America's M&A and anti trust regulations in the last 10 to 15 years. Is that why companies left and right are literally cannibalizing themselves for profits and stocks?
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    Well it wasn’t as terrible as I thought it would be but I would say Jack Black kind of works as Bowser

    I thought he would do his typical frat boy accent for him

    But I'm not sold on Chris Pratt as Mario yet.
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    That random thought of some Golden Age animators like Chuck Jones lived long enough to make it to the late 90's to early 2000's
    Then you start to realize they co-existed with modern things like Rap and Metal music, the rise of CGI, Video Games, and most importantly the 90's resurgence in animation.
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    Low Spark of Lyman
    Low Spark of Lyman
    I saw the Extremes and Inbetweens documentary (shown on PBS in 2000, released on DVD in 2002) recently, which covered the history of Jones and his impact on the entertainment industry.

    Others to apply (albeit stretching into the mid-2000s): Art Davis, Norm McCabe, Bernie Wolf, Frank Thomas, Ollie Johnston, Ward Kimball, Marc Davis...
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    Friz Freleng lived until 1995, although lower profile than Chuck; his last "gig" was as consultant on the 1993 Pink Panther series, although I don't know how much he actually did on that. David DePattie was more involved; he didn't like the Panther talking, but accepted it as a compromise (DePattie was a fair bit younger than and debatable if he's a "Golden Age" figure I suppose, but he only passed last year)
    Low Spark of Lyman
    Low Spark of Lyman
    Walter Lantz, who predeceased Freleng by a year, was doing quite a bit since retiring in 1972 (the year of the last Golden Age Woody Woodpecker cartoons).
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    I don't know why but I miss mid to late 90's film CGI where today it looks like plastic
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    I feel like Adult TV animation in the last 4 years is starting to improve despite some bumps in the road while Kids TV animation is in an awkward spot where it's on throw whatever at the wall and see what sticks mode thanks to streaming and the pandemic.
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    Not to mention, lack of variety in linear TV channels as well.
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    All this sadness over Choco Taco being discontinued and I'm here thinking I never had it.
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    Peter Paltridge
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    I never had one either! My first thought was that it was a literal beef, cheese and lettuce taco with chocolate on it, and I thought "does that work???"
    PinkieLopBun
    PinkieLopBun
    I work at a grocery store and I don't remember even hearing of it.
    JaredCap43™
    JaredCap43™
    I had one once?
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    well here's a show I just discovered. This pre-dates all of the future adult animated sitcoms. Yeah the show is pretty dated but it's a fascinating piece of history.
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    Hard to believe DiC lasted longer than most Saturday morning studios
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    Rick Jones
    Rick Jones
    I was thinking of this earlier today while watching some old cartoons. There were some studios that made very memorable, successful shows during the 80s but for one reason or another, a lot were gone during the early 90s. Dic kept finding ways to go on.
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    Daikun
    Daikun
    DiC was able to survive through multiple acquisitions and partnerships, which kept the company busy over the decades. I highly recommend reading DiC's history on Wikipedia. It's quite fascinating.
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    Streaker Prower
    Streaker Prower
    I think it’s because the DIC Library is retentive available
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