International Disney Networks Thread Part 17

[RandomMe]

looking back i wonder were the false rumor back in December that disney channel italy was going to come back came form afaik there was an artcle that said Disney's bringing back linear channels in italy then some Twitter account said that disney channel and jr is coming back then everyone just started believing that it was coming back

I never believed it from day one to be honest

As much as I'd prefer a "catch-all" compromise, it wouldn't be fully viable considering preschool content is INSANELY popular

 

[Zzman]

As much as I'd prefer a "catch-all" compromise, it wouldn't be fully viable considering preschool content is INSANELY popular

its also good that disney has "reunited" with Sky even if disney jr relaunching unstead of Disney Channel isn't everybody's cup of tea it gets the job done

 

[Rrr]

In Scandinavia this three-shows banner was replaced in ca. July/Aug 2010 (not too far from the feed’s final split from the EMEA cluster) [...]

More precisely it may have occurred between the 13th and 21th of July, following dated Danish recordings of 'Phineas and Ferb' on the web years ago

 

[Francisque]

looking back i wonder were the false rumor back in December that disney channel italy was going to come back came form afaik there was an artcle that said Disney's bringing back linear channels in italy then some Twitter account said that disney channel and jr is coming back then everyone just started believing that it was coming back

I never believed it from day one to be honest

Don't believe at what many people on Twitter, YT and the likes (honestly) spew, they waste time in making up stories of all kinds.

It is often not based on real data or anything; AFAIK, the plan, from the beginning, was to have Disney Jr.

 

[RandomMe]

Don't believe at what many people on Twitter, YT and the likes (honestly) spew, they waste money in making up stories of all kinds.

It is often not based on real data or anything; AFAIK, the plan, from the beginning, was to have Disney Jr.

Yeah, with certain circles, trying to find reliable information is hard. Same happens when I am researching the 2025 Sandokan, as more than 80% of what I find is misinformation from Can Yaman fan pages and people who don't have actual contacts with Fremantle.

 

[Markus]

There were still potential talks about DC so I wouldn't call it completely a lie either. We can only speculate for now. The budget cuts could have happened by also having a unified DC lineup for UK and Italy. Would have made more sense.

 

[Francisque]

Little is known about what the heads at Disney were actually considering in their private plans, but from what I've known, the public plans were definitely for Disney Jr. .
A consideration for Disney Channel likely was there, at one point.

In a way or the other, my point is that people on Twitter and the likes made up stories with no actual source or evidence, which is, they don't work at Disney

 

[RandomMe]

Little is known about what the heads at Disney were actually considering in their private plans, but from what I've known, the public plans were definitely from Disney Jr. .
A consideration for Disney Channel likely was there, at one point.

In a way or the other, my point is that people on Twitter and the likes made up stories with no actual source or evidence, which is, they don't work at Disney

I'm getting sick and tired of the growth of misinformation related to TV channels. Imagine if they steal ideas from our forum to support their websites. This is like the false idea that Warner Bros. would merge under Disney that circulated in 2014, but times a thousand.

 

[Zzman]

Don't believe at what many people on Twitter, YT and the likes (honestly) spew, they waste time in making up stories of all kinds.

It is often not based on real data or anything; AFAIK, the plan, from the beginning, was to have Disney Jr.

yeah after that whole thing with disney channel spain in 2024 i have become more cautious of what people say on those sites i havent been on twitter since last year because of stuff like this

 

[Markus]

The thing is, since Spain decided to get rid of a full 24/7 Jr channel and Channel came instead, I'm sure there were talks about DC returning but at the last moment before the announcement they decided to go with Jr. Again, I'm not sharing false info. I'm just saying what I think about all of this.

We still don't know if they decide to also remove Jr channels in other countries in the next few years including Italy and the UK and just have a mix of Jr and Channel shows. They heavily still are looking for budget cuts. You might think it's unrealistic but there have been surprises before on TV industry.

 

[RandomMe]

I mean, for now there's only room for one.

 

[MrTVDude2004]

Does anyone know when about in 2010 Disney Channel UK switched from the US version of the Ribbon era to their custom version (which would later evolve into the Shooting Star era in 2011)

so when they started using these bumpers:

September 2010 from my memory

 

[Markus]

That didn't stop them from lauching a movie channel so there is definitely room for more channels but they would rather keep it minimal.

 

[Zzman]

honestly can we just accept the fact that disney channel wont come back in uk or italy disney Jr was launched instead because it's more popular simple and I doubt they will remove jr in uk or italy in a few years in the case of italy it's better than no disney owned linear channel at all

 

[RegularCapital]

I think it's best to assume that not every market is the same, what works in Spain doesn't mean it will work elsewhere, and vice-versa. Making a judgment is difficult, because socioeconomics come into play and differing practices of how entertainment is distributed.

UK: Disney Jr had strong ratings, but Disney Channel was weak, streaming is strong but competitive in this market, make a deal with Sky for Disney+ to help boost subscriptions to compete against the offerings on Netflix and Now TV (owned by Sky, but also cannibalises their premium product), and relaunch Disney Jr.

Spain: Disney Channel was popular but expensive to run on DTT and had tough competition against Boing and Clan, plus the DTT capacity was leased, Disney Jr seems to be doing okay on pay-TV, but this can be expanded to include more to become Disney Channel.

 

[themidnightlore]

I think it's best to assume that not every market is the same, what works in Spain doesn't mean it will work elsewhere, and vice-versa. Making a judgment is difficult, because socioeconomics come into play and differing practices of how entertainment is distributed.

UK: Disney Jr had strong ratings, but Disney Channel was weak, streaming is strong but competitive in this market, make a deal with Sky for Disney+ to help boost subscriptions to compete against the offerings on Netflix and Now TV (owned by Sky, but also cannibalises their premium product), and relaunch Disney Jr.

Spain: Disney Channel was popular but expensive to run on DTT and had tough competition against Boing and Clan, plus the DTT capacity was leased, Disney Jr seems to be doing okay on pay-TV, but this can be expanded to include more to become Disney Channel.

I wonder if Italy's case is more the UK one or the Spain one, kinda. Considering that in Italy, Disney closed literally everything, even FOX and National Geographic.

 

[Zzman]

I wonder if Italy's case is more the UK one or the Spain one, kinda. Considering that in Italy, Disney closed literally everything, even FOX and National Geographic.

you got disney jr back so at least thats something I think disney in Italy wants to focus more on streaming (even more than uk and Spain) and they dont see the value of keeping the TV channels as streaming is more profitable for them when they saw they couldn't find an agreement with sky italia to keep the channels they just gave up and shut down the channels

then again disney apparently was asking for too much so...(honestly I think that was done on purpose)

 

[Markus]

This time it's different. The UK can have a mix of preschool and main DC shows which still guarantees high ratings. I'm not asking for a different Disney Channel but Disney Jr to have unified Disney Channel lineup. If others can do it like Spain, so can the UK and Italy. It doesn't affect me as I'm not watching channels in those countries but it would be still nice for the people. If they don't ever try, they don't know how well networks can do.

And no, people don't have to accept this at all. The best audible was to always everything under one Disney channel

 

[Zzman]

well if what they are they are doing right now is successful why change it? they are choosing the channel that will give them the most ratings uk and italy disney channels got low rating so from a a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to bring them back Spain is a different story

 

[RandomMe]

DC UK was sufferable in the last few years, it's as if it was the ghost of the girl channel phase