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Noukon said:
The spinoffs sell better.

The constant rereleasing of older Mario games also counts for something, too; I mean, I'd rather have more Mario platformers (and we do get them now and again; hell, there's another coming out on the DS this year), but the classics still stand up today, and rereleasing them does allow new generations of gamers to experience them.
Thing is though they have been re-released numerious times over since their inital appearance on NES

You had SM Allstars on SNES

You Had SMB on GBC

You Had Super Mario 1, 2, and 3 on the GBA and you also had SMW 1 and 2

Yet not one recent collection includes all the 2D incarnations like the Zelda disc or even the Street Fighter, Megaman, and the other retro collections. I mean Mario Allstars was released years and years ago, but they split the content into three seperate GBA games down the road. So I mean if they could gather every single 2D mario onto a 20 buck set that would be pretty much the ideal.
 
Artimus Gigan said:
Thing is though they have been re-released numerious times over since their inital appearance on NES

You had SM Allstars on SNES

You Had SMB on GBC

You Had Super Mario 1, 2, and 3 on the GBA and you also had SMW 1 and 2
This means what, exactly? All of those rereleases were generations apart.

Yet not one recent collection includes all the 2D incarnations like the Zelda disc or even the Street Fighter, Megaman, and the other retro collections. I mean Mario Allstars was released years and years ago, but they split the content into three seperate GBA games down the road. So I mean if they could gather every single 2D mario onto a 20 buck set that would be pretty much the ideal.
The "ideal" for a corporation is to spread out sales and profits as much as possible. One compilation would be cool to us, but it's unnecessary from their standpoint. If you don't want to buy those GBA rereleases, don't bother; they're not meant for you anyway, they're meant for kids that are new to gaming and haven't experienced those titles before (and anyone with a lot of disposable income who wants a couple of classic titles to play on the go).
 
Does anyone know what the launch titles are rumored to be for Revolution? If the Revolution launch isnt good, Nintendo is going to be in automatic 3rd place.
 
The Jinjo said:
Does anyone know what the launch titles are rumored to be for Revolution? If the Revolution launch isnt good, Nintendo is going to be in automatic 3rd place.
Launch Titles ? I don't know, but I do know they will have Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros. online.
 
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Noukon said:
This means what, exactly? All of those rereleases were generations apart.


The "ideal" for a corporation is to spread out sales and profits as much as possible. One compilation would be cool to us, but it's unnecessary from their standpoint. If you don't want to buy those GBA rereleases, don't bother; they're not meant for you anyway, they're meant for kids that are new to gaming and haven't experienced those titles before (and anyone with a lot of disposable income who wants a couple of classic titles to play on the go).
Capcom, Midway, Namco, and Sega all released multigame compilations for pretty much the big names in their series at low price points. Nintendo should really do the same. I mean really hardly any of the younger crowd is interested with the old games, it's mostly the people who grew up around the games who are interested in them.
 
Artimus Gigan said:
Capcom, Midway, Namco, and Sega all released multigame compilations for pretty much the big names in their series at low price points. Nintendo should really do the same. I mean really hardly any of the younger crowd is interested with the old games, it's mostly the people who grew up around the games who are interested in them.
Yes, it would be nice if they did that, but they really don't have to.

Your assumption that hardly any of the younger crowd is interested in the rereleases, however, is incorrect. The rereleases topped game sales charts, and were primarily bought up by children (as is the case with most GBA games).
 
Artimus Gigan said:
Capcom, Midway, Namco, and Sega all released multigame compilations for pretty much the big names in their series at low price points. Nintendo should really do the same. I mean really hardly any of the younger crowd is interested with the old games, it's mostly the people who grew up around the games who are interested in them.
The re-release of old Super NES games on Gameboy Advance has done very well.
 
Mr.E said:
The re-release of old Super NES games on Gameboy Advance has done very well.
I'm not saying they didn't do well, I'm just saying it would be more efficant price-wise to release them on one big collection
 
Artimus Gigan said:
I'm not saying they didn't do well, I'm just saying it would be more efficant price-wise to release them on one big collection
It would be nice, but they really wouldn't have to do it, and besides, its better to release them this way because they give the original game plus new features.
 
Artimus Gigan said:
I'm not saying they didn't do well, I'm just saying it would be more efficant price-wise to release them on one big collection
Efficient for us, yes. The business is different, though.

One compilation cart selling for $34.99 will make far less money than five individual carts selling for $34.99 apiece. Since they're trying to sell to an entirely new audience, they can get away with it. Someone like me, however, won't pay that; I'll simply bust out my SNES and play them that way.

Nintendo generates more revenue from an investment they made fifteen years ago, and that revenue goes into creating a new, different Mario game.

The entire issue will be moot, however, when the Revolution is out and any of the classic Mario games can be downloaded for a few bucks.
 
I'm giving up on Nintendo when it comes to console I'll just stick with the DS instead.
 
I just bought a Gamecube a few days ago :sweat: And actually, I'm having a lot of fun with it! Sure, the selection isn't the best, but I love the Mario games (I don't go for the army or football games and all that) and have a PS2 at home, so I'm content.
 
Noukon said:
The spinoffs sell better.

The constant rereleasing of older Mario games also counts for something, too; I mean, I'd rather have more Mario platformers (and we do get them now and again; hell, there's another coming out on the DS this year), but the classics still stand up today, and rereleasing them does allow new generations of gamers to experience them.

Yes the spin offs do sell, because they spend so much time making them and releasing them. If Nintendo just spent more time on making Mario platformers, they whould sell.
 
While I'm not one of those "Nintendo USED to be cool" people, I do hope the Revolution inspires Nintendo to go back to making classic platformers and expanding their key franchises with its 100% backwards compatibility.

I wonder how much money people will spend for classic NES/SNES/N64 games...
 
Mr.E said:
Yes the spin offs do sell, because they spend so much time making them and releasing them. If Nintendo just spent more time on making Mario platformers, they whould sell.
Incorrect. Super Mario Sunshine was a relative sales disappointment.
 
Noukon said:
Incorrect. Super Mario Sunshine was a relative sales disappointment.
Yeah, because it was a weak version of Super Mario 64, I played the whole game, its only worth renting or if you never played Super Mario 64.
 
Mario Sunshine was awful. There was enough variety like in Mario 64 and the boss fights were quite unsatifying... don't even get me started on the plot. The best part was the boss fight that took place on a roller coaster. That was quite a trip actually. The game had some nice water effects as well. Very nice indeed. Unfortunately it just didn't stack up. It was worth trying but not worth buying.
 
Sketch said:
don't even get me started on the plot.
I know, ugh, it actually sounded interesting and then the twist ended up being the same thing all over again.
 
Mr.E said:
Yeah, because it was a weak version of Super Mario 64, I played the whole game, its only worth renting or if you never played Super Mario 64.
My point is, if they rushed out tons of Mario platformers, they'd all be like Sunshine.
 
Noukon said:
My point is, if they rushed out tons of Mario platformers, they'd all be like Sunshine.
You never said that, you only said that the side games make more money. And they seem to be constantly rushing out these spin off games, which don't end up being any goood either. If they just took there time and make Mario platformers, those whould sell alot better then these side games. Another problem is, Mario has become such a popular character, Nintendo sees it much easier to make a bunch of crappy side games that they know will sell then taking the time to make an excellent platformer.
 
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