Ben 10: Ultimate Alien - "Duped" - Talkback [4/30]

[MasterofRoku]

Yeah, Dwayne confirmed that we will see the Plumbers' Kids actually training at the Plumbers academy in a future episode.

Okay, but the opening was showing all the aliens Ben used in the series.

 

[Bigchill]

Okay, but the opening was showing all the aliens Ben used in the series.

Okay............What does that have to do with the plumbers' kids?

 

[Manga4life]

Lot's going on in this episode, some great action and some really funny stuff too. Rath has become my favorite alien on this show, Ben solidified that when he pulled out his cell phone in the middle of taking care of business and had a funny conversation with Gwen, that was just funny stuff right there. Then Ben went ahead and found a way to be in multiple places at once, the best part of this was the "I'm Ben classic, miss me?" line, that was hilarious and a definite line to be loved by Ben 10 "marks".

Throughout the episode I couldn't help but to feel bad for Julie, she's such a sweetheart and I am really pulling for her to get into a real relationship, much like I have always wanted to see Naruto and Hinata in a relationship, it's a fun little quasi-romance to follow to say the least. It's like they are together....but they aren't, I'd like to see some closure to this "relationship". I'd also like to see the series creators keep the running gag about stuff happening to Kevin's car going, it's great!

"Ben, you have always been kind of girly but today....YOUR CREEPIN' ME OUT!" ~ Kevin E. Leven.

 

[KPTitan]

Okay, but the opening was showing all the aliens Ben used in the series.

And behind those aliens, you can see several video sequences... they're kinda hard to see, but in my original post I had pointed out that I could see Paradox and Pierce in those video sequences.

 

[MasterofRoku]

And behind those aliens, you can see several video sequences... they're kinda hard to see, but in my original post I had pointed out that I could see Paradox and Pierce in those video sequences.

Oh.
I didn't read the post right.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

Yep, this is a huge speed bump in the Ben-Julie relationship.

I'm not sure where I stand right now on Gwen berating Ben for taking on the Forever Knights instead of watching Julie in her first professional-level match. Yes, the Knights aren't as much of a threat anymore, but a threat is still a threat. Again, Ben's gonna have to learn, even more so now that his 'secret identity' is out in the open, how to balance saving the world with supporting his girlfriend.

Ben definitely didn't help matters, though, with drawing all the attention away from the match and basking in his ego and fangirls.

There sure were a lot of in-jokes this episode, weren't there? Missed the 'classic Ben' line, apparently, but heard Ben's 'live action is always better than the cartoons' and thought "Oh no, he didn't!", as well as the 'TV is a dead medium' joke.

Kinda weird to have a pure comedy episode so early in the season, but... hey, it kinda works!

 

[Mesousa]

Did Nicole Demerse write this episode?

In case you don't get the joke, Nicole Demerse is responsable for the Trent/Gwen breakup in Total Drama Action.

Also, Gwen here was actually more jerky than Ben here. She literally pushed a girl out of the way with her magic!

 

[Light Lucario]

Also, Gwen here was actually more jerky than Ben here. She literally pushed a girl out of the way with her magic!

Yeah, that along with her anger made Gwen act really out of character. She hasn't been that upset with Ben since back in the original series. I didn't think that she would use her powers out in the open like that either.

 

[Master Toon]

Yeah, that along with her anger made Gwen act really out of character. She hasn't been that upset with Ben since back in the original series. I didn't think that she would use her powers out in the open like that either.

I'm pretty sure that Gwen and Kevin were outed along with Ben but Ben just gets more attention.

Edit: Before anyone jumps on me for saying that I know that there's no "proof" of it but let's be honest Gwen and Kevin could not have just coincidentally been ignored during all of those tapings.

 

[Light Lucario]

I'm pretty sure that Gwen and Kevin were outed along with Ben but Ben just gets more attention.

Edit: Before anyone jumps on me for saying that I know that there's no "proof" of it but let's be honest Gwen and Kevin could not have just coincidentally been ignored during all of those tapings.

I thought of that after I made that post. I wasn't sure if they were covered in those tapes considering that I only remember seeing the footage of Ben's different aliens in the season premiere. Even so, it still felt kind of weird that Gwen would get so upset at another person, who was only mildly annoying and had no power of their own, to the point of using her powers on them. It just felt kind of uncalled for. I'm just hoping that she won't be so out of character again in the next episode.

 

[KPTitan]

Yeah, it was pretty weird seeing Gwen out of character... and using her powers on someone who wasn't even a threat that would warrant it.

But here's an interesting question, from Julie's point of view at least: how would you guys feel if your boyfriend/girlfriend was flirting with another girl/boy in front of you. That's basically what we saw Ben doing, he was flirting with those other girls, right when Julie was there and she happened to catch it during her tennis matches. But yes, Gwen was pretty out of character in this one, even though she did what she did out of concern... like what was mentioned earlier, I also hope so that doesn't happen too often or again in the upcoming episodes.

I also lol'd when Kevin said that he always thought of Ben being girly. Because ironically, Ben had screamed/squealed like a girl in the season 3 AF premier, when he was watching a movie.

 

[RonDrakenfan17]

I'm pretty sure that Gwen and Kevin were outed along with Ben but Ben just gets more attention.

Edit: Before anyone jumps on me for saying that I know that there's no "proof" of it but let's be honest Gwen and Kevin could not have just coincidentally been ignored during all of those tapings.

You do see Kevin and Gwen fighting along side Ben.
A little strange how only Ben is getting all the attention from fans.
Any who, yah that's another thing about Gwen. I agree, she shouldn't have used her powers on ordinary people. Just ask them to leave or some thing.

 

[simpsonsfan]

Ben 10: UA has been good so far. This episode was really funny. I do agree with what someone said about sensitive Ben going to cheer Julie on while the jerk Ben should have gone to fight with Kevin. Of course sensitive Ben being with Kevin was really funny. Hopefully Julie will dump him for being so mean to her.

 

[vanidad]

Multiply that way was the most stupid idea that he could happen to Ben.

But I must admit that the episode was funny from beginning to end.

 

[Ixis Mordo]

Just gotta say that after only the second episode, I'm finding Ultimate Alien to be what Alien Force should've been this whole time. It's more fun like the first series but has all the good points of Alien force too. If the writing could only improve, I could be the best Ben 10 series thus far.

Also, I'm finding it ironic that more people seem to be warming up to Julie but are now hating on Gwen.

 

[KPTitan]

Also, I'm finding it ironic that more people seem to be warming up to Julie

What's ironic is that most of us were hoping that:

1. Julie would get replaced by someone else, hopefully Elena or somebody else.

2. If Julie stayed, they should improve on her character. And judging by this episode, it seems like they may be doing that... improving on her character, I mean.

I don't normally trust Wikipedia... but I see they have the summary for this week's episode, and it has these people appearing in it:

Spoiler

Charmcaster, Vulkanus, Zombozo, Seven-Seven, and Rojo. Ben gets to use Ultimate Echo-Echo in this one too.

I know that the first 3 have been confirmed, but I'm not sure about the other two... and if so, I'm gonna be getting a H.I.V.E. Five flashback from the Teen Titans... mostly because there's 5 villains right there, lol.

 

[Yami Ash]

The Ben who stayed at Julie's match was a much bigger jerk than the original Ben. The sensitive Ben was hilarious, and possibly the best thing MacDuffie and Murakami have done with the license. The Ben that went to the movies didn't do much, but seemed to be smart Ben or snooty Ben or something. I also detected a bit of an accent in there.

Was Gwen trying to break up Ben and Julie? "Ben's not here, what a jerk," which transitions into "Ben is here, what a jerk!" The Forever Knights had a freaking tank and were attacking a museum in broad daylight, it could have been filled with museum goers, and Ben is supposed to ignore it? And then he gets there, where everyone starts making a big deal about him, and supposedly it's his fault the way others are reacting?

I feel that Gwen's bizarre unreasonability there made Ben feel like he HAD to split into seperate Bens and be everywhere. At which point he might as well have gone to the movies, as long as he has to abuse his superpowers to make everyone happy.

"You can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself."

 

[Master Toon]

Spoiler

Charmcaster, Vulkanus, Zombozo, Seven-Seven, and Rojo. Ben gets to use Ultimate Echo-Echo in this one too.

I know that the first 3 have been confirmed, but I'm not sure about the other two... and if so, I'm gonna be getting a H.I.V.E. Five flashback from the Teen Titans... mostly because there's 5 villains right there, lol.

Spoiler

The other 2 are definitely in the episode.

The Ben who stayed at Julie's match was a much bigger jerk than the original Ben. The sensitive Ben was hilarious, and possibly the best thing MacDuffie and Murakami have done with the license. The Ben that went to the movies didn't do much, but seemed to be smart Ben or snooty Ben or something. I also detected a bit of an accent in there.

The Ben that went to the movies seemed normal to me.

 

[Bigchill]

All, I hope is that Ben and Julie stay together. Also, really looking forward to seeing Zombozo in action next week

 

[Yami Ash]

Yeah, it was pretty weird seeing Gwen out of character... and using her powers on someone who wasn't even a threat that would warrant it.

But here's an interesting question, from Julie's point of view at least: how would you guys feel if your boyfriend/girlfriend was flirting with another girl/boy in front of you. That's basically what we saw Ben doing, he was flirting with those other girls, right when Julie was there and she happened to catch it during her tennis matches. But yes, Gwen was pretty out of character in this one, even though she did what she did out of concern... like what was mentioned earlier, I also hope so that doesn't happen too often or again in the upcoming episodes.

This is related to an attitude that I often find confusing. Ben (well, one aspect of Ben) was the jerk, and who did Gwen attack? The girls. So they're fawning over a celebrity that is encouraging them, they did nothing wrong. It's Ben who was in the wrong.

But that was after Ben split, so that Ben wasn't all there and can't be entirely blamed for his actions.

The Ben that went to the movies seemed normal to me.

Well, he barely had any screen time, so he could have been any side of Ben you could name, but when he did he had a weird accent.