"X-Men '97 (Disney+)" Animated Series News & Discussion, Part 2 (Spoilers)

....what are the odds that at the end of all of the time travel shenanigans, they're no longer in the 90's but in the 2020's (the present day). But it's not post-apocalyptic world ruled by Sentinels or Apocalypse, instead it's....just the 2020's.

Or maybe I'm just thinking of what I said in the Gargoyles thread: When do the Gargoyles X-Men get past the year 2000?!?
 
....what are the odds that at the end of all of the time travel shenanigans, they're no longer in the 90's but in the 2020's (the present day). But it's not post-apocalyptic world ruled by Sentinels or Apocalypse, instead it's....just the 2020's.

Or maybe I'm just thinking of what I said in the Gargoyles thread: When do the Gargoyles X-Men get past the year 2000?!?
Either they jump from the 90's or bring everything to the 90's :p.
 
Even though my general view on media and franchises, especially James Bond, is usually about rejecting gritty tones and embracing fun and lighthearted things, I think season 2 of X-Men ’97 should have a gritty tone just like the first season.

Because structurally, the world of X-Men fits that gritty tone. Especially with character-driven animated shows like this, they should be gritty as much as they are larger-than-life and over-the-top.

If an animated show is not something like Rugrats, Phineas and Ferb or Ben 10, and if it aims for serious themes or a darker world, especially one where complex relationships matter more than simple heroics, then it should be gritty. Otherwise it turns into a campfest like Megas XLR or Generator Rex, where the stakes do not really feel serious and the story acts like the weight of events does not matter, or it becomes something childish like Avengers Assemble.

The stakes need to be felt.
 
Even though my general view on media and franchises, especially James Bond, is usually about rejecting gritty tones and embracing fun and lighthearted things, I think season 2 of X-Men ’97 should have a gritty tone just like the first season.

Because structurally, the world of X-Men fits that gritty tone. Especially with character-driven animated shows like this, they should be gritty as much as they are larger-than-life and over-the-top.

If an animated show is not something like Rugrats, Phineas and Ferb or Ben 10, and if it aims for serious themes or a darker world, especially one where complex relationships matter more than simple heroics, then it should be gritty. Otherwise it turns into a campfest like Megas XLR or Generator Rex, where the stakes do not really feel serious and the story acts like the weight of events does not matter, or it becomes something childish like Avengers Assemble.

The stakes need to be felt.
Even if the pacing was a bit too fast I feel like season caught a good balance in tone between the drama, messages, and Superheroics :).
 
From the front page of AnimeSuperhero.com:

"Presenting The X-Men 97 Roll Call"​


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"Who will be in attendance once X-Men 97 gets under way next month? All the major players have been revealed in a new short trailer presented by Disney+…one character per second.

Professor X shoots thought circles from his cranium. Jean Grey prepares to shoot a noggin-bean of her own while flying after a crashing ship. Cyclops fires his eye blast at two robot soldiers. Forge runs across a battlefield while firing automatics in both hands. Beast loses control of a ship (hope it’s not the same one Jean was after). Nightcrawler engages in a classic Eroll Flynn-type swordfight. Morph changes into a samurai. Bishop fires some angry pink fist energy. Rogue yells while charging at something. Wolverine slashes in the snow. Storm, naturally, sucks up more airtime than anybody else by generating solar flares while dramatically speechifying.

Jubilee, Sunspot, Archangel, Psylocke and Cable get a half-second each…I don’t think Psylocke was confirmed until now; I’d like to know more. It’s more time than the also-rans get though..the trailer closes with flashes of newcomers Siryn, Havok, Multiple Man, Wolfsbane, Emma Frost, Polaris, and someone named Strong Man who really needed to come up with a better name."

Read the full article here.
 
One of the main criticisms of the first season was the pacing, but we have an even larger cast of characters for the next season....feels like they are still making same mistake.
I just rewatched Wolverine and the X-Men again, it managed to do a lot more with small cast, and had far more potential for another Apocalypse story.
 
One of the main criticisms of the first season was the pacing, but we have an even larger cast of characters for the next season....feels like they are still making same mistake.
I just rewatched Wolverine and the X-Men again, it managed to do a lot more with small cast, and had far more potential for another Apocalypse story.
It also had 26 episodes, though I feel like at least this show doesn't have to deal with having to force Wolverine into the lead role at the expense of other characters.
 
Reported episode titles for Season 2.
Episode 1 – Days of Past Future
Episode 2 – A Force to be Reckoned With
Episode 3 – Rise of Apocalypse: Part 1
Episode 4 – Rise of Apocalypse: Part 2
Episode 5 – Weapon X, Lies, and DVDs
Episode 6 – Danger.Exe
Episode 7 – Strange Land, Savage Heart
Episode 8 – The Dead Man's Hand
Episode 9 – Survival of the Fittest

If accurate, I like the how some of them are echoing titles from the original series. In case of #5 it's also a slight upgrade (the old title was "Weapon X, Lies & Video Tape").

#9 was also the title for an X-Men Evolution episode.
 
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Reported episode titles for Season 2.
Episode 1 – Days of Past Future
Episode 2 – A Force to be Reckoned With
Episode 3 – Rise of Apocalypse: Part 1
Episode 4 – Rise of Apocalypse: Part 2
Episode 5 – Weapon X, Lies, and DVDs
Episode 6 – Danger.Exe
Episode 7 – Strange Land, Savage Heart
Episode 8 – The Dead Man's Hand
Episode 9 – Survival of the Fittest

If accurate, I like the how some of them are echoing titles from the original series. In case of #5 it's also a slight upgrade (the old title was "Weapon X, Lies & Video Tape").

#9 was also the title for an X-Men Evolution episode.
"Dead Man's Hand" sounds a lot like we're getting Deathbit (AKA Gambit as Death) :ack:.
 

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