International Nickelodeon Thread Part 16

[NewBogus :)]

Can someone explain what's the problem in those episodes?

Speaking of what? Wylde Pak? They added them a month prior its TV airing release, which was kinda weird for Nickelodeon stuff on streaming.

If I had known of this before, my WP series watching could have been ended 4 weeks ago.

 

[RandomMe]

Speaking of what? Wylde Pak? They added them a month prior its TV airing release, which was kinda weird for Nickelodeon stuff on streaming.

If I had known of this before, my WP series watching could have been ended 4 weeks ago.

Yeah, that show

 

[LopezPoJ]

I would like to know how (and when) did we go from this (credited the copyrights to the actual holder):

...to this (credits the copyrights to the show's production companies who actually aren't their show's real copyright holders - or even involved in its production anymore, let alone in most of it, and only rarely - and accidentally - do credit the real holder):

(as an aside, they didn't seem to have put much effort on the post-2023 one, all other banners and tags from the graphics package have some decoration, but not this one)

And I also want to understand WHY on Earth they thought it was a good idea at all to go from only using it only in German-language, Netherlands, African and CEE feeds (and maybe also Nordics and Belgium) to using it in ALL Global compound feeds with NO exceptions anymore (even in territories where it's not even customary - and it's supposed to only be customary on several TV channels within German-speaking countries - or even acceptable, such as Latin America, of all places), in addition to the otherwise non-Global-styled, fully localised Germany/Austria feed (where it, as I stated earlier, is actually customary), and even in the also otherwise non-Global-styled, fully localised UK/Ireland feed (which before the current rebrands didn't use it at all).
MTV and Comedy Central-branded channel feeds on the same territories covered by Nickelodeon's Global compound don't even - or no longer - do a similar thing despite operating from and/or at least using a broadcast license from the same people as the Nickelodeon-branded channels (in fact, the French and LatAm feeds of Comedy Central reverted to mostly not showing any closing credits as all - not even the production logos, dubbing credits or even copyright notice screens, yet they haven't applied a banner with either a copyright notice or the production companies' names thus far). Unsurprisingly only their German feeds do that (and even MTV might have probably stopped doing that anymore due to its "globalisation"). The now-closed Brazilian feeds at least tried to make things coherent by applying similar banners to the MTV and Comedy Central feeds at least (not that it would've been acceptable by LatAm pay TV standards, as I stated earlier), but they happen to have done that on their last few months of life, no other European-handled feed of such channels besides the German ones did so afterwards.

This is part of why I want the merger with WBD to happen: I'm not sure but maybe, just maybe, they'll end up taking the WBD broadcasting offices with the purchase, and WBD doesn't use banners with the production companies' names on it, let alone attributing the copyrights to them (outside of Germany AFAIK, and even then at least Cartoon Network seems to not use them at all ever since merging with several Western Europe feeds), meaning that either the full closing credits return or they get rid of those pointless, uncomfortable banners (or, at the very least, Nickelodeon LatAm might get a chance to return to a local Latin American operation, broadcasting from what used to be the Discovery Networks offices, similarly to most channels owned by WBD that weren't originally from Discovery) either because of merger of broadcasting offices or to homogenize operations of the pay TV channels. Hopefully I'm not wrong about that (assuming that the merger does happen).

 

[zQwmy]

@LopezPoJ I‘d like to once again point out that having such copyright banners is not really something customary in Germany/Austria; only some channels do it, really only to increase advertising time, nothing else - and no one really likes this.

As an example: None of the German WBD channels do it, neither have they ever done it.

It might have originated on one of the VIMN North feeds, likely Germany, which actually isn‘t really the best one to blame right now as they actually DO show credits 40% of the time (which isn’t really a lot but still more than the Global Feeds)

 

[RandomMe]

@LopezPoJ I‘d like to once again point out that having such copyright banners is not really something customary in Germany/Austria; only some channels do it, really only to increase advertising time, nothing else - and no one really likes this.

As an example: None of the German WBD channels do it, neither have they ever done it.

It might have originated on one of the VIMN North feeds, likely Germany, which actually isn‘t really the best one to blame right now as they actually DO show credits 40% of the time (which isn’t really a lot but still more than the Global Feeds)

And that practice is limited to FTA terrestrial channels, including big shots like ProSieben

 

[Francisque]

And that practice is limited to FTA terrestrial channels, including big shots like ProSieben

Yeah, but Dutch channels often are not that much better either, which is why the Dutch team has expanded this practice to the global channels.

In a way or the other, many countries tend to mistreat credits

 

[RandomMe]

Yeah, but Dutch channels often are not that much better either, which is why the Dutch team has expanded this practice to the global channels.

In a way or the other, many countries tend to mistreat credits

Yeah, even in Portugal, AXN skips credits, basic cable movie channels only show the first seconds (like SIC and TVI in the past) and STAR is a hit and miss.

 

[LopezPoJ]

@LopezPoJ I‘d like to once again point out that having such copyright banners is not really something customary in Germany/Austria; only some channels do it, really only to increase advertising time, nothing else - and no one really likes this.

This only means the Global compound feeds shouldn't be doing that anymore, since most of them don't even run ads anymore.

Look, I don't even mind the lack of closing credits itself (it's shockingly common on FTA channels here in Latin America and almost everybody got used to it by now. It's NOT common on pay TV though, keeping them intact, even if they're shrunk to a corner of the screen before or after the next show begins or sped up Is the norm here), what bothers me is those braindead banners that not only seem quasi-illegal (no, really, attributing a show's copyright to a literal vanity logo like "Schneider's Bakery Productions" or "United Plankton Pictures, Inc." instead of "Viacom International Inc." seems to me like a attempt at embezzling money meant for royalty payments) but also defeat the purpose of "globalisation" that Paramount Networks EMEA aims at for the channels (like, they literally get rid of all or most of the localisation to fit all of the served continents more easily, and then at the end of shows they do something definitely NOT "global" like a production company banner that's more reminiscent of German television - that turns out to not even be common within Germany anyway, so obviously much less elsewhere in Europe alone, let alone in the rest of the world!)

Yeah, but Dutch channels often are not that much better either, which is why the Dutch team has expanded this practice to the global channels.

Alright, but I'm still particularly curious about when and why they went from actually crediting the true copyright holder(s) to mostly attributing it to the vanity logos or production companies not actually involved in their shows' copyrights.

 

[BloggerHU]

Rugrats-reboot S3 is coming in June on Nickelodeon GU. Again, in a dead slot, later than last time.

Just a reminder, this season was never shown in television (maybe on VOD services, but I'm not sure).

 

[RandomMe]

Rugrats-reboot S3 is coming in June on Nickelodeon GU. Again, in a dead slot, later than last time.

Just a reminder, this season was never shown in television (maybe on VOD services, but I'm not sure).

I only got to see it on TN8's stream, where they aired at least season 1 and season 1 only.

 

[LopezPoJ]

Rugrats-reboot S3 is coming in June on Nickelodeon GU. Again, in a dead slot, later than last time.

Just a reminder, this season was never shown in television (maybe on VOD services, but I'm not sure).

In Latin America it did air, back when Nickelodeon was still a locally-managed basic-tier channel (sorry, I'm still uneasy about it)

 

[RandomMe]

In Latin America it did air, back when Nickelodeon was still a locally-managed basic-tier channel (sorry, I'm still uneasy about it)

TN8 was quick to get it because its owner knew how to license expensive content. However by then, they had removed most of the non-Nick shows (and SpongeBob) likely because the owner was sanctioned a few years ago. They still air Nick shows but they repeat mostly the same episodes, and for SpongeBob and FOP, they skip a few seasons.

 

[shoohorn]

from what I found out, Nickelodeon Israel aired shorts during breaks. As far as I know they aired Astrology with Squidward and Doodlez. I have a feeling they aired other shorts such as "Domo" knowing that several of the international Nick channels aired Domo

 

[TAWOSFW]

From what I discovered from two years ago that TF1, has banned and censored several episodes of Bob L'eponge according to ina.fr. The only remaining evidence that I could find was from a French forum where TF1 censored the spikey cleets scene in "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler". Most of these episodes being censored remained to be lost media.

And as for the banned episodes:
"Ghost Host" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/26/2008).
"Rule of Dumb" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/27/2008).
"Spy Buddies" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/07/2009).
"Sing a Song of Patrick" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/08/2009).
"Mermaid Man vs. SpongeBob" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/05/2010).
"20,000 Patties Under the Sea" and "The Battle of Bikini Bottom" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/08/2010).
"Suction Cup Symphony" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/12/2010).
"The Splinter" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/13/2010).
"Grooming Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/20/2010).
"Krusty Krushers" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/22/2010).
"Dear Vikings" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/25/2010).
"A Pal for Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/11/2011).
"Big Sister Sam" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/13/2013).

 

[shoohorn]

From what I discovered from two years ago that TF1 (previously named TFOU), has banned and censored several episodes of Bob L'eponge according to ina.fr. The only remaining evidence that I could find was from a French forum where TF1 censored the spikey cleets scene in "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler". Most of these episodes being censored remained to be lost media.

And as for the banned episodes:
"Ghost Host" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/26/2008).
"Rule of Dumb" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/27/2008).
"Spy Buddies" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/07/2009).
"Sing a Song of Patrick" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/08/2009).
"Mermaid Man vs. SpongeBob" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/05/2010).
"20,000 Patties Under the Sea" and "The Battle of Bikini Bottom" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/08/2010).
"Suction Cup Symphony" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/12/2010).
"The Splinter" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/13/2010).
"Grooming Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/20/2010).
"Krusty Krushers" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/22/2010).
"Dear Vikings" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/25/2010).
"A Pal for Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/11/2011).
"Big Sister Sam" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/13/2013).

Why did Nickelodeon France wait so long to air certain seasons? I’m guessing TF1 really did have something to do with that
They premiered Season 4 in January 2008, Season 5.1 in February 2009, Season 5.2 in January 2010, Season 6 in October 2010, Season 7.1 in January 2011, Season 7.2 and Season 8 in February 2013

 

[RegularMan]

From what I discovered from two years ago that TF1 (previously named TFOU), has banned and censored several episodes of Bob L'eponge according to ina.fr. The only remaining evidence that I could find was from a French forum where TF1 censored the spikey cleets scene in "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler". Most of these episodes being censored remained to be lost media.

And as for the banned episodes:
"Ghost Host" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/26/2008).
"Rule of Dumb" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/27/2008).
"Spy Buddies" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/07/2009).
"Sing a Song of Patrick" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/08/2009).
"Mermaid Man vs. SpongeBob" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/05/2010).
"20,000 Patties Under the Sea" and "The Battle of Bikini Bottom" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/08/2010).
"Suction Cup Symphony" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/12/2010).
"The Splinter" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/13/2010).
"Grooming Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/20/2010).
"Krusty Krushers" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/22/2010).
"Dear Vikings" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/25/2010).
"A Pal for Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/11/2011).
"Big Sister Sam" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/13/2013).

...TFOU still exists.

 

[RandomMe]

"Sing a Song of Patrick" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/08/2009).

Apparently this episode was about writing a song so awful on purpose CSA/ARCOM wouldn't allow on a radio station.

I have no idea why was TF1 so restrictive.

 

[TAWOSFW]

From what I discovered from two years ago that TF1, has banned and censored several episodes of Bob L'eponge according to ina.fr. The only remaining evidence that I could find was from a French forum where TF1 censored the spikey cleets scene in "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler". Most of these episodes being censored remained lost media.

And as for the banned episodes:
"Ghost Host" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/26/2008).
"Rule of Dumb" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/27/2008).
"Spy Buddies" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/07/2009).
"Sing a Song of Patrick" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/08/2009).
"Mermaid Man vs. SpongeBob" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/05/2010).
"20,000 Patties Under the Sea" and "The Battle of Bikini Bottom" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/08/2010).
"Suction Cup Symphony" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/12/2010).
"The Splinter" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/13/2010).
"Grooming Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/20/2010).
"Krusty Krushers" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/22/2010).
"Dear Vikings" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/25/2010).
"A Pal for Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/11/2011).
"Big Sister Sam" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/13/2013).

Why did Nickelodeon France wait so long to air certain seasons? I’m guessing TF1 really did have something to do with that
They premiered Season 4 in January 2008, Season 5.1 in February 2009, Season 5.2 in January 2010, Season 6 in October 2010, Season 7.1 in January 2011, Season 7.2 and Season 8 in February 2013

Idk, but Nickelodeon France has held these episodes after Nickelodeon France launched in November of 2005. Almost all of the airdates for Seasons 1-8 from the French Wikipedia are 100% false as Seasons 1-3 were aired spiradically being part of a series of blocks "SpongeBob and Patrick presents the Best of Nickelodeon," "No Panic!," and "Nickelodeon Afternoons". Season 4 were aired split in half on the weekend of January 27-28, Season 5 was part of a daily marathon daily on February 2009, except for the last bunch and the first episodes of Season 6 in January 2010. Also Season 8 aired earlier on TF1 in January 2013, Nickelodeon France aired it in April, when they completed Season 7 in February.

 

[TAWOSFW]

Apparently this episode was about writing a song so awful on purpose CSA/ARCOM wouldn't allow on a radio station.

I have no idea why was TF1 so restrictive.

Idk, but the banning for "Sing a Song of Patrick" will always remain funny to me if TF1 didn't want to hear an awful song made by Patrick Star, and for "Rule for Dumb" and "The Battle of Bikini Bottom" idk why they had to ban these episode.

I think "Spy Buddies," "Krusty Krushers," and "Suction Cup Symphony" were banned because of scenes that were considered too violent, such as ripping their faces off or bones sticking out, because its too "gorey" to cut for a kids show. For "20,000 Patties Under the Sea" idk what were they thinking on banning this, I guess the chumwich look like a human organ between two burger buns.

 

[E-Scope]

From what I discovered from two years ago that TF1, has banned and censored several episodes of Bob L'eponge according to ina.fr. The only remaining evidence that I could find was from a French forum where TF1 censored the spikey cleets scene in "SpongeBob Meets the Strangler". Most of these episodes being censored remained lost media.

And as for the banned episodes:
"Ghost Host" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/26/2008).
"Rule of Dumb" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/27/2008).
"Spy Buddies" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/07/2009).
"Sing a Song of Patrick" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/08/2009).
"Mermaid Man vs. SpongeBob" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/05/2010).
"20,000 Patties Under the Sea" and "The Battle of Bikini Bottom" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/08/2010).
"Suction Cup Symphony" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/12/2010).
"The Splinter" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/13/2010).
"Grooming Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/20/2010).
"Krusty Krushers" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/22/2010).
"Dear Vikings" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 10/25/2010).
"A Pal for Gary" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 01/11/2011).
"Big Sister Sam" (aired on Nickelodeon France on 02/13/2013).

Idk, but Nickelodeon France has held these episodes after Nickelodeon France launched in November of 2005. Almost all of the airdates for Seasons 1-8 from the French Wikipedia are 100% false as Seasons 1-3 were aired spiradically being part of a series of blocks "SpongeBob and Patrick presents the Best of Nickelodeon," "No Panic!," and "Nickelodeon Afternoons". Season 4 were aired split in half on the weekend of January 27-28, Season 5 was part of a daily marathon daily on February 2009, except for the last bunch and the first episodes of Season 6 in January 2010. Also Season 8 aired earlier on TF1 in January 2013, Nickelodeon France aired it in April, when they completed Season 7 in February.

I think VRAK.TV in Quebec had aired the episodes with no problem, as they got season 4 early before Nick France.